• Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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    21 minutes ago

    All ICE agents should be treated with nothing but disdain and ridicule for the rest of their lives. We need a running list of their identities so they can be ostracized. Monuments should be built at Arlington so they can join Robert E. Lee in their shame. Make it a public urinal, right at the entrance.

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    This is getting weirder. Did they realize they were being shitty on camera?:

    “I’m a U.S. citizen, please help me,” she shouted after agents forced her to the ground. “This is unfair. Why are you doing this to me?”

    Agents then placed her in a patrol vehicle. She was released a short time later.

    “She refused to cooperate and identify herself with all levels of law enforcement there,” said agency spokesman Alan Regalado, noting Monroe County Sheriff’s Office deputies were there. A Herald reporter saw deputies moving drivers along who were slowing down to watch the stop.

    After agents removed the woman from her car, they found her driver’s license in the vehicle, ran it through their system and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen, Regalado said.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article313356223.html

    Edit: So basically, she wouldn’t show them her gold star. WTF country are we fucking living in.

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      Why would they bother with the license if the ICE facial app scan said she was an immigrant? I thought it was absolute and infallible…

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    Uhg. FTA:

    “She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent. This should be a warning sign for MAGAt as they could be preyed by ICE at any time!”

    None of that is a reason to believe she’s not an undocumented immigrant. And being brown, curly-haired, not-a-medical-worker is not any reason to believe they’re an undocumented immigrant.

    Is this objectionable behavior by ICE? absolutely. But not because of who the victim is. but because there IS a victim. everyone in this country is protected by the constitution, and afforded the rights of due process- which ICE is flagrantly violating the shit out of.

    Can we please stop with the special classes of people like this?

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      It is important because of the reason they cite.

      By going after this woman, they’re making it clear to MAGA folk that allowing the rights of minorities to be eroded also removes their own protection. Even racist assholes should be appalled at the civil rights violations being committed.

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        They’ll just say “since innocents will be inconvenienced.” Remember they don’t understand until they are hurt personally.

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        And in making that argument, it signals to the racist assholes that the problem being that she’s white, blonde and professional, and therefore the rest are fair game.

        which as you say, erodes everyone’s rights. But that’s not particularly important to me. the rights of all are worth protecting even if that weren’t true.

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          I think it is about opening the eyes of the racist ICE supporters that in fact they are not safe from what they have initiated. Even if they cannot make the jump to being decent human beings caring about all people, they usually care about what happens to themselves.

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            Yeah and as much as we all hate having to interact with these absolute chuds, the most successful ways of deprogramming people have been through empathetic outreach.

            If these MAGA chuds experience the boot of fascism first hand, that might open them up to listening to people from other groups that have had to deal with this kind of treatment for much longer.

            It’s a slow process, a metric fuck ton of emotional labour, and not everyone is willing to do that work, which is understandable given that you’ll be competing against the whole outrage media and “attention economy”.

            But if enough of us are willing then through genuine human connection, which everyone but a very minute actual clinically psychopathic portion of the population is so desperate for, can get these chuds to open their eyes and grow a little more empathetic.

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      Yes, yes, yes! But also, it’s particularly notable that she’s white and blond with no accent because they claim to their supporters to be protecting those specific people from “illegals.” Pointing out that they’re not only doing something awful but also defying their own stated principles is always a good thing to do.

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        No, they are appealing to MAGA folks that are picturing getting rid of all the dark skinned people they don’t like.

        The people that consider that nuance have already been against the ICE crap, you don’t have to convince those. The only people that can be convinced are those that you need to get their racism aside before they’ll join you. It’s distasteful, but it’s a way to grow the voices condemning this behavior.

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        We all know what that’s code for. I have never been to the US in my life, and yet as a white European I’d be accosted much less than tens of millions of US citizens.

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      Pretending special classes of people don’t exist is just stupidity.

      They definitely do exist.

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        3 hours ago

        and they exist, in large part, because articles like this normalize it.

        congratulations in defending part of the problem.

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          43 minutes ago

          Hard disagree, those types of stereotypes are established in youth long before the kids start reading articles.

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      It’s been allowed under the laws for a long time, it’s just like everything else been a polite agreement not to do things like that. The constitution isn’t really suited for actors in bad faith in all parts of the government.

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      4 hours ago

      A society steeped in misinformation and propaganda ultimately embraces fascism

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        4 hours ago

        Sick from poison, no doubt, but sick nonetheless. I hope there’s a cure that opens their eyes some day, but it won’t come from a TV screen.

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          3 hours ago

          Last time this happened, the country affected needed electro shock therapy to help them snap out of their delusions.

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    It’s just too bad there wasn’t one of those responsible gun owners around to prevent terrorists from kidnapping a civilian. Speaking of, where are all of these gun toting Americans that believe they have them to defend America? Fucking cowards.

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    “why is this happening” don’t know lady, maybe because fascist are in power right now? I wonder if this is what she voted for? Hhhmmmm.