Sure sure, but he’ll definitely pay me this time because my company is different. All those other guys were just incapable of doing the job right.

Yeah, we’re in a mid-season plot stretch to see if this administration can “weekend at Bernie’s” a vapid blathering demential patient for another year so that JD Vance can get 2.5 terms as president.

It’s all going exactly as everyone with 2+ braincells predicted.

It’s the kind of poetry a Vogon would produce after his second Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster.

Source : Took journalism in school and it fucked up my ACTs.

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He doesn’t believe in due process for anyone else, why should he get the same benefit? Stephen Miller murdered a child, and should be summarily deported from life. He didn’t use due process to murder the child, so he shouldn’t get due process to avoid the death penalty. No trial, just a hangin’.

Eh, I had a nice reply typed up, but I just deleted it. Talking to you is a never-ending clown show. I’m sure I’ll spot someone saying some more braindead shit in a few weeks and I’ll look up and see your username again. I get a laugh, because it’s like the same 3 people on the whole fediverse that keep writing or defending some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen.

Maybe I am…

Or maybe agreeing to answer a non-yes/no question in a strictly yes/no fashion is a fast track to getting your head stuck up your ass, which is why I won’t answer your’s unconditionally. You didn’t answer my question, per the deal, I don’t have to answer yours.

All I did was flip the table around and made you eat your own poisoned meal.

This is a good time to bow out by the way, before you dig a deeper hole.

Blah blah blah, TL;DR

Yes or no. Your answer shouldn’t be more than 3 letters… Or are you backing out?

Does your mom know that you are spreading racist slaver-apologist revisions of history from your room in her basement?

Yes or no please.

I’ll answer with a yes/no if you answer another question for me strictly in a yes or no fashion first. Deal?

^^

Did the with use a framework of states rights to attempt to legalize seceding? Yes or no. No bullshit editorializing, yes or fucking no.

Point to where I said or implied slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war. I won’t hold my breath because that isn’t something I’ve said nor would said

You fucking tell me.

Un-fucking-beleiveable.

Well anyway, we’ve already established previously that you tacitly admitted to being a disingenuous troll, not sure why I’m bothering at this point anymore. Someone needed to counter your fake bullshit, and coming with direct quotes from you and actual links to actual references well establishes that you know what you are saying is a false re-writing of history to whitewash the fucking morons that betrayed the country to fight for the “right” to deny foundational rights and freedoms to others.

Clean it all out and start over again.

Get the fuck out. Did you miss the part where you said…

That does not change it from being the framework for succession and their main complaint

…which was in reference to me saying "states rights is a bullshit excuse?

Which I literally screenshotted , highlighted, and made giant red arrows pointing to it.

Do I need to do that all in-text for you? Are you using a braille display or something?

Edit: Fuck it, went back to your original comment that prompted all of this. You sole position in there was that states rights was the founding principle of the Confederacy, and you even recognize there that it was complete bullshit excuse, but also claim that it was the sole cause for secession (and thus the civil war).

Point to where I said or implied slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war. I won’t hold my breath because that isn’t something I’ve said nor would said

Point to where I said or implied slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war. I won’t hold my breath because that isn’t something I’ve said nor would say.

Are you fucking serious?! Took me less than 10 seconds. Unlike you, when I make a claim, I can back it up with direct quotes and sources.

Take your ball and go home.

I would love to see your evidence about that one.

Since you are unfamiliar with Wikipedia, there were 6 sources cited in the quote alone.

I already provided pre war evidence that directly refutes your feelings on the matter.

I didn’t see it, I still don’t see it, so go ahead and quote it back to me your support of Lost Cause Confederacy talking points.

This isn’t lost cause theory, it’s stating a series of facts you simply don’t agree with.

Read the Lost Cause page, or even better, I’ll put the relevant section in here for you since you clearly won’t bother to educate yourself.

Unimportance of slavery

The movement that took The Lost Cause for its name had multiple origins, but its unifying contention was that slavery was not the primary cause of the Civil War[8][18] and would have naturally perished.[1] This narrative denies or minimizes the explanatory statements and constitutions published by the seceding states—for example, the wartime writings and speeches of CSA vice president Alexander Stephens and especially his Cornerstone Speech. Lost Cause historians instead favor the more moderate postwar views of Confederate leaders.[19]

Confederate president Jefferson Davis wrote about the place of the South’s enslaved African Americans in his The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government (1881)

[The negro soldiers’] servile instincts rendered them contented with their lot, and their patient toil blessed the land of their abode with unmeasured riches. Their strong local and personal attachment secured faithful service … Never was there happier dependence of labor and capital on each other. The tempter came, like the serpent of Eden, and decoyed them with the magic word of “freedom” … He put arms in their hands, and trained their humble but emotional natures to deeds of violence and bloodshed, and sent them out to devastate their benefactors.[20][21]

I’m not saying you’re a racist slavery-apologist historical revisionist btw, but I am saying that you keep repeating and defending racist slavery-apologist historical revisionist propaganda materials, despite being provided ample evidence and resources to know that what you are saying is racist slavery-apologist historical revisionist propaganda.

Ah you mean they challenged state sovereignity which is… A state right!

Exactly. The slave states didn’t care about states rights at all. All they cared about was keeping slaves. If the believed in what they were saying about states rights, they wouldn’t have tried to force non-slave states to turn over freed slaves. The entire “confederates wanted states rights” argument is bullshit. They used the states right excuse to uphold the practice of slavery, and completely ignored these rights when they were used against slavery.

The Confederacy was about keeping slaves, and it was not about upholding the sovereignty of states. That was myth invented after the war was lost to whitewash the people who fought for the “right” to own and abuse human beings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy

The Lost Cause of the Confederacy, also known as the Lost Cause Myth or simply as the Lost Cause,[1] is an American pseudohistorical[2][3] and historical negationist myth[4][5][6] that argues the cause of the Confederate States during the American Civil War was just, heroic, and not centered on slavery

You can keep arguing after this I guess, but from this point forward, you would be knowingly promoting and defending a racist slaver-apologizing fraudulent piece of revisionist history.

I literally quoted Jefferson Davis Alexander Stephens (VP of the Confederacy) a month into the Confederacy. You should go read a fucking history book. Racism and slavery was the foundation of the Confederacy, as stated by the people that started it. States rights is a bullshit excuse. The confederate states wanted to force non-slave states to return escaped slaves, despite them have the rights (specifically a state right) not to return human beings to slavers. Fuck off with this fake ass daughter of the Confederacy propaganda.

Edit : Fixed cornerstone speech attribution.

Our new government['s]…foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

Saying the civil war was about states rights is like saying the Holocaust was completely legal.

Both positions are factually correct, but it completely misses the inhuman and immoral pretexts that lead to those actions. The American civil war was about slavers trying to prolong their lifestyle of abusing other human beings regardless of what the laws of the country were. They saw that slavery was going away, and they responded by starting a war of secession.