This is getting weirder. Did they realize they were being shitty on camera?:
“I’m a U.S. citizen, please help me,” she shouted after agents forced her to the ground. “This is unfair. Why are you doing this to me?”
Agents then placed her in a patrol vehicle. She was released a short time later.
“She refused to cooperate and identify herself with all levels of law enforcement there,” said agency spokesman Alan Regalado, noting Monroe County Sheriff’s Office deputies were there. A Herald reporter saw deputies moving drivers along who were slowing down to watch the stop.
After agents removed the woman from her car, they found her driver’s license in the vehicle, ran it through their system and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen, Regalado said.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article313356223.html
Edit: So basically, she wouldn’t show them her gold star. WTF country are we fucking living in.
Why would they bother with the license if the ICE facial app scan said she was an immigrant? I thought it was absolute and infallible…
Only a truly sick society would allow this
A society steeped in misinformation and propaganda ultimately embraces fascism
Sick from poison, no doubt, but sick nonetheless. I hope there’s a cure that opens their eyes some day, but it won’t come from a TV screen.
Last time this happened, the country affected needed electro shock therapy to help them snap out of their delusions.
It’s been allowed under the laws for a long time, it’s just like everything else been a polite agreement not to do things like that. The constitution isn’t really suited for actors in bad faith in all parts of the government.
It’s been sick for as long as I’ve been alive… Americans often just don’t know it.
Uhg. FTA:
“She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent. This should be a warning sign for MAGAt as they could be preyed by ICE at any time!”
None of that is a reason to believe she’s not an undocumented immigrant. And being brown, curly-haired, not-a-medical-worker is not any reason to believe they’re an undocumented immigrant.
Is this objectionable behavior by ICE? absolutely. But not because of who the victim is. but because there IS a victim. everyone in this country is protected by the constitution, and afforded the rights of due process- which ICE is flagrantly violating the shit out of.
Can we please stop with the special classes of people like this?
It is important because of the reason they cite.
By going after this woman, they’re making it clear to MAGA folk that allowing the rights of minorities to be eroded also removes their own protection. Even racist assholes should be appalled at the civil rights violations being committed.
And in making that argument, it signals to the racist assholes that the problem being that she’s white, blonde and professional, and therefore the rest are fair game.
which as you say, erodes everyone’s rights. But that’s not particularly important to me. the rights of all are worth protecting even if that weren’t true.
I think it is about opening the eyes of the racist ICE supporters that in fact they are not safe from what they have initiated. Even if they cannot make the jump to being decent human beings caring about all people, they usually care about what happens to themselves.
Yeah and as much as we all hate having to interact with these absolute chuds, the most successful ways of deprogramming people have been through empathetic outreach.
If these MAGA chuds experience the boot of fascism first hand, that might open them up to listening to people from other groups that have had to deal with this kind of treatment for much longer.
It’s a slow process, a metric fuck ton of emotional labour, and not everyone is willing to do that work, which is understandable given that you’ll be competing against the whole outrage media and “attention economy”.
But if enough of us are willing then through genuine human connection, which everyone but a very minute actual clinically psychopathic portion of the population is so desperate for, can get these chuds to open their eyes and grow a little more empathetic.
They’ll just say “some innocents will be inconvenienced.” Remember they don’t understand until they are hurt personally.
If MAGA people were able to understand the subtext of this event, they’d be smart enough not to be MAGA in the first place. You might as well try to explain to a dog why drinking antifreeze is bad.
Maga folks have been brainless since 2015
They were also brainless as Tea Party folks since 2008.
Maga is just another way of saying conservative and they have been brainless way longer than that.
Yes, yes, yes! But also, it’s particularly notable that she’s white and blond with no accent because they claim to their supporters to be protecting those specific people from “illegals.” Pointing out that they’re not only doing something awful but also defying their own stated principles is always a good thing to do.
Whoever wrote that doesn’t realize Canadians can also be immigrants.
No, they are appealing to MAGA folks that are picturing getting rid of all the dark skinned people they don’t like.
The people that consider that nuance have already been against the ICE crap, you don’t have to convince those. The only people that can be convinced are those that you need to get their racism aside before they’ll join you. It’s distasteful, but it’s a way to grow the voices condemning this behavior.
I’m surprised Trump has tried to encourage more Aryan immigration. Quebec did this to counter the Muslim immigrant “problem”.
We all know what that’s code for. I have never been to the US in my life, and yet as a white European I’d be accosted much less than tens of millions of US citizens.
Pretending special classes of people don’t exist is just stupidity.
They definitely do exist.
and they exist, in large part, because articles like this normalize it.
congratulations in defending part of the problem.
Hard disagree, those types of stereotypes are established in youth long before the kids start reading articles.
they exist, in large part, because articles like this normalize it
This complaint is missing the forest for trees.
Special classes of people have existed for as long as civilization has exited. Leaders and followers, kings and peasants, the wealthy and the poor, etc. As animals, it’s in the nature of some of us to desire a greater share of resources and luxury at the cost of depriving others from having the same.
An article repeating the notion of people with specific skin tones are part of a privileged class isn’t the problem, it’s just a symptom of the problem. The problem is the bigots who put that into practice, singling out and causing problems for people with specific tones while providing benefits to those with other specific tones. Getting rid of public acknowledgement about class disparity isn’t going to get rid of class disparity, it’s just going to get rid of discussion about class disparity. The racists will still be there, being racist.
Getting rid of public acknowledgement about class disparity isn’t going to get rid of class disparity,
that article isn’t recognizing class disparity, though. it’s perpetuating and normalizing it. and yes, the people that are bigots are absolutely also part of the problem. the media is complicit in that, though, including that article.
Next the came for the white, blonde, citizens.
And people continued to do nothing.
You’re completely right. All this does is fuel more racism and elitism. Unfortunately it is the reality we currently live in. Many people who are MAGA absolutely believe blonde hair blue eyed white people are true Americans and are safe. Pointing out these facts tells them that they’re next and that all of this is wrong. Some people won’t realize their mistakes until it happens to them personally. A white woman with blonde hair hits home for many of them and could be a wakeup call.
Again I want to say that I DO NOT agree with bringing up this information. I do not believe it should be relevant at all. It is just unfortunate that this is the reality we are living in and I believe we do need to be the change we want to see by not bringing this information up ourselves.
All ICE agents should be treated with nothing but disdain and ridicule for the rest of their lives. We need a running list of their identities so they can be ostracized. Monuments should be built at Arlington so they can join Robert E. Lee in their shame. Make it a public urinal, right at the entrance.
Name and shame ice agents. Dean Cain.
Stupidman
I think there’s a website/database for this already
I hope she sues the fuck out of them.
Nothing would happen. Just a waste of money. And if it came to it, they would just get pardoned.
There is no law in the USA. Trump is the law.
From an outsider looking in, it sounds like more reason to sue or to run to the media. Otherwise, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy
or to run to the media
Frustratingly, the US media is owned by a small concentration of wealthy people who are being further enriched by Trump’s bullshit.
Why the defeatist attitude?
I hope someone hunts down her assailants one by one, tortured them psychologically, makes them suffer physically and broadcasts it all as a warning to other fascist fuckwits before delivering upon them the fate all Nazis deserve.
They won’t.
That’s why it’s hope.
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She literally can’t, ICE agents are federal agents which means they have civil immunity from lawsuits that are a direct result of their duties. Unless they’re doing something that a reasonable person would understand to be a breach of the law. That said the federal courts seem to use Donald Trump’s circumstantial definition of a reasonable person and only his. So fat chance there’s a legal solution to this.
I feel very reasonably that warrantless searches and seizures while not in uniform and face coverings and no badges IS A BREACH OF THE LAW!!!
Not to even mention all the countless people that have been disappeared or deported to God knows where with no information given to their families or anything. Just poof gone. No jury, no trial, no proof they did anything wrong, no positive ID they are even who they are. None of it.
Please explain how any of that could possibly be legal and how any reasonable person wouldn’t consider it evil and terrible and utterly terrifying and dystopian?
How is everyone NOT upset at how awful this all is?
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They let her go.
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Jail. For all these ICE assholes and everyone above them.
It’s just too bad there wasn’t one of those responsible gun owners around to prevent terrorists from kidnapping a civilian. Speaking of, where are all of these gun toting Americans that believe they have them to defend America? Fucking cowards.
Be the change you want to see in the world
I am not a gun owner. I’ve never tried to senselessly defend them by claiming they’re for protection. I just want the hypocrites to stop being hypocrites and to point out how fake the initial argument was in the first place.
Those who had the guns agree with the kind of oppression they are seeing. It’s not really hypocrisy.
She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent.
She was eventually let go.
The first one is why the second one happened.
Prison sentences for ICE agents who participate. There is no excuse.
Prison would be too good for these jackboot thugs.
When the ICE is dismantled, nobody with excellent salaries and benefits should hire those shitbags.
Hire them? They need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. The most egregious and violent ones should have capitol punishment handed down.
How about no doctor treat them.
Surely Florida residents are all aware that the entire state is within the 100-mile freedom exclusion zone.
I have never heard of this and with the average IQ of a Floridian I wouldn’t think they are in the know either.
If she was American, she could afford real clothes instead of those cheap paper ones. Stands to reason.
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Side note, why is she bringing her scrubs outside the hospital? Don’t you return them after your shift in America, to be washed and such?
No people own and wash their own scrubs. Healthcare is for shareholder profits in America.
I’m wearing scrubs at work right now which I’m solely responsible for keeping & washing at home regularly.
You have a noble profession, IMO. 🩵
What are you assuming is my profession?
Something something hospital. Would you like to share?
I’m a massage therapist 😄
The preceding conversation taught me that scrub-wearing people who work in hospitals don’t wear their scrubs outside the facility & don’t have to wash them themselves, they leave their scrubs at work and there’s a separate crew responsible for scrubs laundry.
My life is not like that.
The worst filth my scrubs ever encounter are my own body sweat & occasional massage lotion mishaps.
Hey, massage therapy is good for well-being, too. 🩵 Maybe not as “noble” per se but it’s a good service for those that afford it. 😁✌️
Cocaine nasal insufflation?
Did you mean to reply to me?
Yeah I was just making a dumb joke because we don’t know wise their profession is.
Do you mean why did ICE abduct her from work inside the hospital and drag her outside kicking & screaming without giving her a chance to change her clothes?
No.
But if that’s what happened, I have the answer to my question.
I’m also wondering why ICE abducted her period, not really specifically from where. 👍 But like I said, this was a side note.
Depends on where you work. They provide them at my hospital, but I still wear a privately owned pair when traveling between home and work.
Why do you wear your own scrubs to and from work?
Also curious.
These are likely not the drab, standard, facility-provided surgical or operating scrubs that even the I.T. staff has to change in to (or don over top) before crossing the red line into a clean zone, ‘red’ room or room with isolation precautions. These are the other personally-supplied garments staff wear to look professional in a medical setting. These are the same ones that are sometimes replaced with T-shirts and such on casual friday or department-coordinated Hallowe’en costumes on October 31.
Ah okay, that makes sense. Thank you.
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It’s written on the detergent bottle.
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No, US hospitals let nurses carry in bacteria and carry out bacteria into the community.
That’s the first thing that came to mind, like, wouldn’t you want to contain that mess? Wash instantly?
