Of course.
So you’re saying they can actually bring back people they’ve accidentally deported. Weird how that wasn’t the case before now.
Well, now there’s precedent. Gonna be harder to duck charges when we’re on the other side.
you say that as if any part of this republican gov gives a shit about optics, consistency, or precedent. you know a reporter will ask that question and they will all play stupid.
The mind recoils from such a happy vision of the future.
I mean they literally brought back Abrego Garcia, but then made trumped up charges for revenge.
Not the same at all. That’s one of the good ones.
its hard to bring back dead people
Let’s deport Melania next along with Vance’s wife.
Then Rafael ‘Ted’ Cruz
Shapiro too since he’s Jewish
although I’m having a bit of a time figuring out if the US loves or hates Jews right now, it’s confusing to me
MAGA loves Jews when they are in Israel. They don’t want them here. According to them Jewish Americans are liberal, and “control the banks and Hollywood, etc.” so in reality they don’t like the Jewish but support them not being here. It is an unholy alliance.
I’d argue MAGA loves Israel and hates Jews, they just hate Muslims more, putting their specific support in perspective
I’m noticing a pattern ….
Most German citizens didn’t know about the mass killings till after the war, even most soldiers.
People being disappeared with no records being kept…
We can’t hide behind ignorance later if/when we find out people were executed. That’s the whole point of accountability, without the accountability we have to assume worst case scenario. Or else the worst case scenario will happen under the guise of incompetence and the false belief no one would do this.
Hey just so you know, it’s total bullshit that the german populace didnt know about the holocaust. Some of the civillians may not have known about the specific mechanics, but many were even aware of the gas chambers masquerading as showers, jews included.
People tried to hide behind ignorance after the fact, as I have no doubt they will try to do once this latest atrocity is done. I very much agree that simply being aware does not put us into any position different than the german population in WWII, we must strive to do better than their example.
I think how many German people knew how much of the truth back then isnt too important. Some people knew some things.
Im more concerned about the strive to do better you mentioned. What does that look like? Do we all need to start neighborhood militias?
I think no one can answer this definitively, but I’m willing to say no to militias, for various reasons (longer conversation).
What we have here is to some extent a privilege of urban density, but it’s more of a “watch” than a militia. In short, civil disobedience. People volunteer as eyes/ears and meat shields for their neighbors. I haven’t yet been detained but have accepted the possibility.
The reason it works better is another long conversation but, in short, it ensures every attack of the enemy costs them something, and sometimes quite a lot. The resulting war of attrition is winnable because each act of unwarranted aggression erodes legitimacy, boosts recruitment, and increases public resolve.
How much you are willing to risk is a personal choice.
Get to know your neighbors, get back in touch with friends and family that you know are sympathetic. Give your time and effort to groups in your area that are resisting, whether legally, physically, or however that looks to you.
Starting the French underground is a big lift, but the French underground did not spring fully formed out of nothing. You have to find ways you can help.
So they said. There’s a lot of counter-evidence to it:
They kept meticulous records by using cutting-edge technology:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
Amen to accountability. Using intent instead is pretty much a blank check for the privileged to oppress the average person with impunity.
They kept meticulous records by using cutting-edge technology:
They did…
But they kept it at the camps, or in secret memos only for high ranking party members.
Again, just because trump claims incompetence in the present when we ask where people are, doesn’t mean we have all the information.
trump says the Epstein list doesn’t exist too, and we haven’t seen it either…
But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Like, you’re assuming common people knew then what common people knew after. That’s a dangerous assumption when we’re living thru it
Think of how much shit comes out normally 5-10 years later. We still haven’t been hit by the really bad shit trump did his first term.
As bad as 2016-now looks, it’s an almost guaranteed that by 2045 we’re going to find out it was much worse.
Edit:
To clarify this was the (valid) justification for going after some teenage secretaries at the camps and random offices when they didn’t go after every single soldier.
Because someone had to type that shit up, a few low level people were the exception and weren’t ignorant.
That being said, if you’re a 16 year old girl some old Nazi made his secretary, you were probably going thru your own personal hell and couldn’t exactly snitch even if you wanted to.
But…
In the context of how widespread the knowledge of the camps was, it’s a relevant tidbit that backs up how few Germans really knew what was happening.
People new about the concentration camps, though, and must have seen there were many more people going in than they could hold. Dachau was maybe 10 miles from Munich, that’s walking distance. No way people didn’t know, whatever they claimed later.
A 10 miles walking distance??? Just send me to the camps.
Lol, you can walk ten miles in about 3 hours at a regular pace. Most reasonably fit people can, anyway. Not everyone has access to cars, and even less so in the '40s. 10 miles would be considered close on foot, much less by bicycle.
People knew they weren’t coming back from those trains.
They didn’t know exactly how they were going to die, but they knew they wern’t going to live on a farm somewhere. They just didn’t ask questions because that could get you on the next train.
People hid and smuggled and lied for their friends and in-laws. You don’t take that risk from ignorance.
They knew, ignorance in exchange for reason. Like those people who say that ice detention centers give you hot meals and free place to live
Nah man, people absolutely knew what was going on. The other comment pointed out it’s bullshit Germans were unaware of what was happening. They just didn’t do anything about it. Remind you of anything? And they kept meticulous records. Basically this entire comment is total bullshit.
I just had a mental image in my head of Hitler being furious after finding out that a Jewish employee he deems as “one of the good ones” is sent to the concentration camp. I can imagine the race against time by Hitler himself to save his employee before being locked in to the gas chamber.
I’m torn,
because that sounds like a fantastic premise for a movie…
There’s an opportunity there to invent a homoerotic subplot and use it in a sequel to The Producers.
Springtime For Hitler II: Winter Is Coming
2 Fast 2 Führer
Fascist & Furious.
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I wanna see a movie where Hitler decides to abandon his plans for global domination when he discovers his true passion: underground street racing. And the cars better honk with a period appropriate “awooga”.
Its called mein Führer
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Führer_–_Die_wirklich_wahrste_Wahrheit_über_Adolf_Hitler
So, a bit of a spoiler, but…This is basically the plot of the ending of “The Boy in the Striped Pajamas”.
It is horrifying, and really sad. But the look of dismay on that officer’s face at the end gives a very small touch of karma to it.
Very similar
how is this fucking real
Corporations being people and money being speech is the less-than-fun little answer to that very important query.
Because we let it…
Gross oversimplification, but that’s the social contract.
This happened because we let it, and it continues to happen because we continue to let it.
The least we can do is be honest about it.
It sure would be embarrassing if someone was told this was exactly what was going to happen a year ago, and that person went on to relentlessly demonize the one action that would not let it happen, and smear anyone who tried to not let it happen.
That person would be a pretty big hypocrite if they went on to complain about the thing all their hard work helped to happen.
I assumed it was the onion initially. Oh how I was mistaken.
We kept doing the same thing over and over because the odds of something different working were low.
You can’t deport the ones he already owns…
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
The only good [insert target minority group of the day] is my [insert target minority group of the day].
You can also put in ‘rape’, ‘sexual assault’, or ‘abortion’ into those two, as well. And now ‘murder’, with the fishing boats off Venezuela.
One more line in the iteration of human rights abuse.
Unfortunately, most voters say the same thing about their senators & representatives, which is why turnover in Congress is so low.
Sounding more and more like the founding fathers. Don’t deport his Mexican, he owns that one.
Fucking sick bastard.
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I hope this frenzy keeps a shit ton of them from doing their normal “job.”
