Saved you a click: it’s 37% that still approve.

Fucking hell.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

Yo we don’t care when americans shoot american children, why should we care if someone else wants to get in on it? No way to prevent this. ('sides, with a name like Omar Mohammad Rabea the kid had to have been brown)

Seems like uh… maybe a strike is in order? Maybe?

Really, anything from the Game Canon is a good choice: Mario, Doom, Tetris, SimCity, Civ I, Warcraft, SpaceWar, Zork, that soccer game I don’t remember, StarRaiders.

I haven’t seen anyone mention Zork yet, and it really ought to be in contention here. Pretty much all video games can trace how their narrative is structured through gameplay back to the foundations laid by Zork, even doom. It drew on Colossus, sure, but it built on it so much that it became revolutionary to both games as a storytelling medium and to natural language processing. Really cool stuff.

Holy cow, that’s… that’s pathetic. Good grief.

Bills must be paid by Wednesday, or else.

… or else what, exactly? There seems to be a whole lot of sternly worded judicial opinions, but can they actually do anything to enforce said decisions??

Really, because the luxury hotels are all fortresses already (for the security of the guests aginst those nasty brown people, obvs) and self contained (already have everything you need onsite) with little off-site visibility (you can’t easily see the human rights abuses). Oh, and they’re owned by Trump’s friends, and they can charge obscene amounts of money for renting out space like this.

No saying they’re not raping little girls because duh, just that they clearly don’t care about having luxurious surroundings to do that. There’s way more straightforward practical and corruption-centered reasons for the choice.

"Well the USA did it, too! has got to be the worst justification, for anything, that I have ever heard.

“… they need to fix the problem quickly, and after some political dicking around this is the only option they’re left with?”

Allright well we seem to have the Americans warming up to perform their hit number “WE TOLD YOU SO” lets see if it changes from the last fifty times we’ve heard it…

You very much did, and you very much are continuing to present hyperbolic examples as reasonable interpretations.

An illustrative but lazy counterpoint might be: Why aren’t you more comfortable with putting immigrants in concentration camps? Don’t you see how open borders would harm this country?

You know what a “false dichotomy” is? If no, this is a beautiful example. Immigration reform is an entire world of options, “deport all the brown people” and “Ignore all the laws” aren’t the only options like you’re implying here.

This is a very, very old topic. What have we been doing, before it was politicized into a fiery hot-button issue? What, historically, have we been doing that is effective?

Nobody likes being told to stop exploiting something when they’ve been doing it for years…

I addressed the premise of the question because it’s fundamentally flawed, any direct answer would have to tacitly acknowledge those flaws as valid or be intellectually dishonest.

Left-wing people aren’t in favor of “illegal immigration”, they are in favor of immigration reform.

You know what a “false dichotomy” is? If no, this is a beautiful example. Immigration reform is an entire world of options, “deport all the brown people” and “open borders and free subsidized piñatas for everyone” aren’t the only options like you’re presenting here.

Oh good! Have a very nice day.

I’m confused, the only thing I’ve said about the dems is that they’re less bad than the actual fash but still in large part to blame for this current situation. Not exactly “lefties shouldn’t be mad at the democrats”. It’d be pretty absurd to argue that, even (see: gaza, enabling fascism with their complacency, etc). Imitating their behavior would, you know, be emulating the things that lead to the current situation vis a vis fascism.

I’m really sorry, but I’m not sure what your point is. Aren’t the dems the ones culpable for the rise of fascism in this country, which was the whole point of this in the first place? Emulating them seems like a good way to become a fascist enabler.

I dunno, seems like the fascists are the problem, actually.

The moderates that tolerate fascists and thus enable them are always the problem, actually.
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Rome is burning, even Nero is out there organizing the firefighters, and you want to righteously split grammatical hairs? I don’t even have a fiddle metaphor, this is just dumb on both our parts. For quite a few people, people who are even on your side already, it did not go without saying. For 40%+ of the country it doesn’t even go without saying that trump is a fascist. Your opinions are not objectionable, hell from a quick browse through your comment history we agree on pretty much every point, the only problem here is that your message is getting drowned by your very understandable fear and anger.

Lashing out at your allies when they think your message is getting lost in the rhetoric is going to accomplish nothing except see you have to fight alone, and neither you nor I will survive this by ourselves.