It’s 0.03% of his networth…

The average net worth in his state is 189k.

So propertionally it would be like an average constituent winning $66.

Which isn’t nothing, but it puts his priorities in perspective when he held onto it. Most people would buy a round of drinks for their friends…

But that’s not how you get in any of the lists Forbes publishes. You get on those list caring about your high score more than literally anything else.

That’s great and all, but it also kind of throws out the entire point of the party as a platform and a sort of shorthand for a set of policies

Only if you think the purpose of the party is how neoliberals weilded it for decades…

That’s not what the party should do, it’s not what its for, and a large issue with the current situation is that’s how neoliberals used it.

It doesn’t surprise me at all that Martin’s vision worked at a state level, but how does it work at a national level?

Because it’s easier to run a national party correctly than a state party correctly.

Like, you’re on the right track. There’s a shit ton of offices to manage at a state level, but for the DNC they literally just need to run a fair presidential.primary once every 4 years.

No more, no less.

That’s why Ken’s giving all that money back to the state parties. There’s literally nothing it can be used for right now, so give it back to the state parties it was stolen from and who need it for midterms.

I 100% get why it seems like nothing is being done, but that’s literally because a DNC operating correctly shouldn’t have anything to do.

They shouldn’t be prostelizing policy, they shouldn’t be promoting candidates.

Any attempt to do so, will just result in eventually losing the party to neoliberals again. Because they can play the dirty game better.

It’s gonna take a while for people to get used to it. But its gonna pay off in midterms, and then obviously in the next presidential primary.

Quick edit:

Think of it like the Middle East.

The wealthy consolidated power in the DNC, because it’s easier to control a single person with massive power, the DNC chair.

Martin is undoing all that. Disseminating the “power” (money) back to all the state parties. Which even when he’s gone makes it harder for the wealthy to seize control.of the next chair.

If he kept the power (funds) and tried to weild it for good, it would be easier for a neoliberal to grab.

We gotta throw the ring into the volcano, we can’t turn into Gollum.

This was disclosed from his taxes.

If he meant to donate it like he said, there’s no plausible reason it wasn’t done during the same tax year to minizme taxes…

You don’t get on Forbes #400 richest individuals in America by not having a team of accountants to notice basic shit like that.

Besides the fact that if he honestly cared about charitable donations, he’d never have amassed 3.9 billion in wealth. 1.4M isn’t even a rounding error in his networth, he probably didn’t give it a second thought or realize it’s a life changing amount of money for 99.999% of his constituents.

Schadenfreude timestamp is about 30 minutes in.

Highlight from cop to ICE agent:

I got a DUI two years ago, just go jail and cry about like a man

And without the slightest hint of irony:

I’m just doing my job, it pays the bills, I can’t say no.

Like, he seemed to be sincere, but using the stereotypical “just following orders” to a modern Nazi is peak irony. It pretty much broke the ICE guys brain

And I’m saying by staying in, refusing to pass down orders you believe are illegal, and making them fire you over it and making a bunch of noise is a better plan.

You have no reason to take my word on it, but I’ve been thru UCMJ before myself (for valid reasons).

But I’ve also stopped over 5 people from going thru the same thing on fraudulent charges.

I put ten toes down against a mutiny charge for it, and told them to court martial me, and they backed down.

Again, I know it’s a big ask to for you to take my word on it, but I am intimately familiar with what’s happening and what various courses of action will lead to.

The best course is to fucking stand your ground and fulfill your oath. Not resign and fuck off with an officers pension while the nation burns.

Let’s say a dozen articles over a week if say that’s generous though.

Compare that to years/months of trump having to fire 100s maybe even thousands of officers while they say loudly and repeatedly exactly what the illegal.orders were in a courtroom…

Like cmon man.

Even if you legitimately think awareness is most important, making trump fire them is more awareness.

And that’s not even getting into how much of a hassle firing an officer is.

The harsh truth is their cowards who want to retain the benefits that come with resigning.

If they resign they’re putting themselves over the country, against the oath they swore.

They’re fucking cowards not heroes, and I legit don’t know why people don’t see that.

Oh yeah, I’m absolutely positive the people who are ignorant of what’s happening will see this Huff Post article and their minds will change…

This one news article about a quitter raises waaaaaya more awareness than months/years of court cases where officers are being let go for not following specific orders they felt were illegal

If there are any perceived adults in the room at this point, it is probably the military

1. Not as much as you’d think

2. They’ll be even less, if the few adults left fucking resign and leave

Resigning is a way to call attention to the problem

Oh wow!

I didn’t realize this was for awareness. Someone go get Susan G Kommen out of whatever mansion she’s hiding in and tell her we need to raise fucking awareness that trump is violating the constitution.

Obviously nothing is more important than awareness!

Why fight fascism when you can raise awareness?

#Giant fucking /S

they were about to fire him

Then make them do it…

It’s not something that can happen at the snap of a finger, and even after the fact would involve court cases that take resources away from the shitty things they’re trying to do…

We’re fucking fighting fascism man, we have to fight every battle even if we lose, because it at least eats up the clock.

There is literally zero gain from resigning.

Good news!

The current DNC agrees with you, here’s him being asked about Mamdani months ago:

Ken Martin (current DNC chair):

Well, first, it was a brilliant campaign. And there’s a lot of lessons.

One is, he campaigned for something. And this is a critical piece. We can’t just be in a perpetual state of resisting Donald Trump. Of course, we have to resist Donald Trump. There’s no doubt about it for all the reasons we just talked about. But we also have to give people a sense of what we’re for, what the Democratic Party is fighting for, and what we would do if they put us back in power.

And that’s really critical. And I think that’s one of the lessons from Mamdani’s campaign, is that he focused on affordability. He focused on a message that was resonant with voters, and he campaigned for something, not against other people or against other things. He campaigned on a vision of how he was going to make New York City a better place to live.

I think that’s one of the lessons. The other lessons, of course, is the tactics he used to get his message out, both a very aggressive in-person campaigning, meeting voters where they’re at, and then also in those digital spaces, using very creative messaging to cut through the noise and to get to voters in an inexpensive but authentic way.

There’s a lot to learn from that campaign, and I’m excited to learn more.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/dnc-chair-on-the-path-to-winning-back-voters-and-lessons-democrats-can-learn-from-mamdani

Listen to the interview Jon Stewart did with him on his podcast

I haven’t heard it yet, but probably will look it up.

The guy has no direction or vision for the party.

I mean, we can look at how he ran Minnesota for a decade and the results that came with that

But the single largest thing he’s doing now, is literally the largest reinvestment into state parties ever. With extra money going to red/purple states where we can gain House seats and state government positions.

Those state parties have been running at campaign levels all year, something that was only happening in the 6 months leading up to a general the instantly shuttered the morning after the election.

It’s fucking huge. Especially considered how prior DNC was literally bankrupting the state parties and that’s the only reason republicans even had a shot in the House.

Like, I mean this sincerely and without insult, but:

The vast majority of people that think Martin and what he’s doing isn’t enough, just have no idea how bad shit really was at the DNC under Harrison and past neoliberal leadership.

Martin isn’t everything we could ask for, but he’s more than enough for what we need.

I’d argue that they’d try to out-crazy one another and we’d end up with a psycho

They’ve been doing that since Palin…

Also, while we’ll be cordial in comparison, there’s still a lot of infighting on the Democratic side.

There’s neoliberals shitty on everyone that doesn’t bend the knee, and progressives complaining about that and saying what neoliberals do hasnt been working for decades. Which neoliberals respond to like how maga responds to valid criticism.

But the thing is, neoliberals only get far in primaries when they have a biased DNC (state party for down ballot) keeping everyone else down.

Look at what Ken Martin did in Minnesota for a decade as chair. He has zero bias and won’t favor anyone in a primary. That almost always leads to progressives being the front runners in primaries, and then crushing in the general.

So there’ll be a billionaire funded neoliberal.or two on debate stages, and the media will keep saying they’re the front runners. But all we got a do is fucking ignore them. We’ll have a couple progressives debating the best course of action, and a crazy neoliberal calling everyone socialists like that’s a negative.

Competitive primaries increase turnout for Dems, because it makes people feel invested and gives the candidates a great reading on what Dem voters want in a candidate.

That is how Martin (and now the DNC) views primaries. Not just as a hoop they need to throw the lifeless corpse of their pick like what happened in recent Dem primaries.

Ok, making progress.

The convention happened in August of 2024.

That was run by the DNC chair Biden appointed when he became president in 2020.

Obviously that chair fucking sucked and was a huge problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Harrison

The only reason he got chair, was he was good at getting money from billionaires.

In February of 2025, the ~400 voting members of the DNC realized how bad that strategy was, and pivoted hard left to Ken Martin. But again, they didn’t have any say in 2020, Biden named Harrison back the .

Being mad at Ken Martin in 2025, for things Jamie Harrison did…

Is like if October of 2021, you kept blaming Biden for everything trump did during his first term. Because they both hold/held the same title.

Does any of that help you understand?

And the military who thinks they’re being ordered to break the law should stay and resist…

Like, I know, this a marine. But surely they retain enough critical thinking to understand if everyone who thinks trump is giving illegal orders resigns…

The only people left in the military would be people who are fine with this shit.

When people say “lead, follow, or get out of the way”

The “get out of the way” option is supposed to embarrass them into at least following.

You can’t “get out of the way” of fucking fascism and then expect people to clap for you. It’s only going to be idiots who don’t understand anything clapping.

Giving up is not a viable strategy in the face of fascism.

dnc was held this year with republicans not progressives who got locked outside to speech and protest

What do you even think “DNC” is?

Like, I know there’s a huge misunderstanding here, but I’m genuinely curious what the fuck you’re even confusing with the DNC right now.

Like, it’s a national organization, you’re acting like it’s an event like Coachella…

Great!

The more crowded the republican primary the better.

trumps going to try and run again, or name a successor. A crowded field of republicans tearing each other down will only help Dems.

We can manage a cordial primary, they only know how to campaign by saying their opponent is the devil.

Could you at least try & stop obeying the fascists in advance?

She was put there to do exactly what she’s doing now…

She’s a woman that belongs to a cult that thinks women should be subservient …

However, it’s not just their spiritual practices that have drawn scrutiny. The group’s approach to leadership and decision-making, often described as hierarchical, places a significant amount of power in the hands of a few leaders. Men hold the primary leadership roles, and women, referred to in the past as ‘handmaids’ (a term they have since abandoned), are expected to adhere to traditional gender roles, a stance that has fueled debates about gender equality and women’s rights.

https://www.cultfacts.com/cults/people-of-praise

She was a literal handmaid. Not just in action, that’s what women were called in her cult:

Acting like ABC in any capacity is going to help fight fascism isn’t just useless, it’s actively harmful

No matter what she says, this is the result she wants and why she’s on the SC in the first place.

Which is even more ridiculous when the candidate saying it is the incumbent, and you’re listening to it in school.

I’m not doing it now, but I would totally do it if not for _____

It’s manipulating a quirk in psychology where talking about fixing something can result in more dopamine than you’d get for actually fixing it.

Even for people who actually want to fix it, sitting around and talking about fixing is more pleasurable than doing anything to fix it.

Nothing wrong with it, it’s human variation and valuable to plan ahead before acting as a society. But the fucking house is on fire and we’re sitting at the kitchen table. We don’t need the perfect plan, we need damn near any action to stop the fire or bare minimum go talk about it on the yard and not in an active house fire.

We need people like this DA to just start levying charges. Her saying an arrest has to happen before charges is easily disproven by the mere existence of the FBI’s most wanted list.

How can someone who hasn’t been apprehended be charged with a crime if apprehension has to happen before charges?

She just doesn’t want to do the legwork of identifying and proscuting, which is literally her fucking job. She wants cops to hand her an airtight case with video evidence and the suspect already in handcuffs, then she might be willing to press charges.

Bruh…

Do you legitimately believe a DA and cops don’t have a close enough working relationship that the DA can (and frequently do) say something like: “Do this or I’ll refuse to press charges for shit you want”.

I’m fucking sick of this learned helplessness.

You won’t even fucking ask the people with power to help, to even help.

If you’re gonna be like this. At least keep your own head in the stand and stop chasing everyone else around throwing sand at us

Be ignorant and ineffective if that’s what you want. But let the people who know how to fix it and want to fix it actually fucking do something.

Like, that was the entire point of my original comment, and you just stumbled in to tell everyone you don’t understand any of this, and maybe we should try just not opposing fascism.

Quick edit:

For some constructive feedback, the right course is to ask questions, not just make assumptions including that if you don’t know something, it means it don’t exist.

You could have just sked how the DA could apply pressure to make the arrests happen. That’s an incredibly common thing, but not everyone knows.

But just ask fucking questions instead of making up excuses for people unwilling to fight fascism.

Well?

What the fuck is she waiting for?

Thousands gathered Monday at locations across San Francisco to protest federal immigration enforcement, a day after police arrested 148 adults and six minors during a riot at a downtown Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office.

https://sfstandard.com/2025/06/09/san-francisco-ice-protests-live-updates/

That was months ago…

Seems like she’s hesitating, or just not planning on doing shit.

I’m fucking exhausted of people telling us they drew a line in the sand, when the fascists are already 100 yards past the line and gaining speed.

Stop fucking campaigning and start working.