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    Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment (inb4), student debt relief marijuana pardons and likely rescheduling, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, non-competes banned (by FTC along ‘party lines’), pardoning people kicked out of military for being gay, supporting Ukraine, etc, etc.

    People saying he didn’t do anything have their head in the sand.

    Is this where we cue “but he didn’t do everything, everywhere, all at once”?

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      I think people are more upset about the net change. Marijuana pardons, but he also pardoned someone who embezzled millions, as well as Hunter (after saying he wouldn’t). He also showed no sympathy for union workers, like when he signed return to work for striking rail workers.

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        Going to copy paste my comment from elsewhere


        He started the process for medical marijuana legalization in 2022 via rescheduling to schedule 3 (Harris had called for full legalization, Biden only called for medical). It’s not as simple as a singular executive order when done without congressional action alone. The existing law makes the process very convoluted to reschedule. Lots of steps inbetween with people that have actively tried to slow it down

        The formal rule for it ended up being fully proposed in May 2024, and the DEA has dragged it out and kept delaying it. The DEA managed to push the inital first hearing out until Dec 2nd and there keep being legal challenges from outside groups to push it back further and further


        Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate

        https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617

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          So why’d he fuck off until 2022 instead of starting it on Inauguration Day?

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            Because legislation was a much faster route so they started there. It took a bit before died in the senate

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              No, that’s bullshit. There is absolutely no excuse why he couldn’t have worked on both processes at the same time.

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            Maybe because there was a freaking pandemic to focus on. (Besides that the other guy said they did.)

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          Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate

          Gee. How could that have happened in the Senate that Democrats controlled at the time?

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              We gave Democrats a majority. We gave them the opportunity. They didn’t do what we elected them to do.

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                Joe Manchin is barely a democrat - though he’s probably the best you’d get out of West Virginia. In other parts of the world, he’d be a different party and he’s already left the Democratic party

                Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t. He actually tried to do what he could via executive action in many areas. He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action

                He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act), large infrastructure investments, etc.

                Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it

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                  Joe Manchin is barely a democrat

                  Joe Manchin’s obstruction is the last word people got from the Democratic Party on a host of issues.

                  Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t.

                  Like he did with most of BBB, yes.

                  He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action

                  That’s what happens when you spend decades being on the wrong side of issues, as Biden was with both cannabis and student loans. You don’t get credit for slapping a tiny store-brand bandaid over the problems you made a career out of creating and exacerbating. Especially when the tiny store-brand bandaid falls off.

                  He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act)

                  Centrists really overestimate the popularity of that law. Sometimes they wait a whole other sentence before gloating about record oil production.

                  Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it

                  His other faults make me disinclined to carry water for him.

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                Because we didn’t elect enough of them. You’re really leaning on “we have a majority because West Virginia”?

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                  Because we didn’t elect enough of them.

                  There are never enough. They killed the public option last time we gave them a supermajority.

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        Hello Mr Crab! That’s why I said likely! He told whatever agency to look at it and iirc they announced plans to reschedule it.

        I also see someone else has given you a whole bunch of information on it.

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              Well, at least you’ve moved on for your previous position that Biden had rescheduled cannabis. Because you knew every last time you repeated it that it was a fucking lie.

              Cannabis is still Schedule I, where you and Crime Bill Biden love it.

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                And that’s why I said likely!

                For anyone wondering, months ago I said that Biden rescheduled marijuana. I said you can say that I was a little ahead of the ball on that. But Mr Crab got suuuppeeerrr mad, yelling and screaming at me for months, and still going! I think he’s at 4 months now! You’d think that lack of rescheduling raped and killed his mother or something.

                where you … love it.

                Ah and we have your strawman! Still can’t break that AND operator huh! For anyone wondering, Mr Crab is intent on calling people centrists.

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                  And that’s why I said likely!

                  Because you expect people who know better to buy that cannabis is “likely” to be rescheduled in the next month? Come on dude.

                  Biden didn’t reschedule cannabis. It’s still Schedule I. Where it will remain until the end of his term. Where he always intended it to stay.

                  He did not, as you asserted, reschedule it. That was a lie. You didn’t “get a little bit ahead of the ball.” That ball ain’t moving and it was never going to. It was just a lie. That’s all it ever was and all it will ever be. You. Lied.

                  Still can’t break that AND operator huh!

                  I’m not sure why you think this makes any more sense than last time.

                  Anyway, I’m out. You’re just trying to provoke a slapfight.

                  EDIT: They always keep trying when you say you’re leaving. Now he’s whining about downvotes and making conspiracy allegations.

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    His end is similar to Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    Held on too long to power and totally fucked their legacy.

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      This is as wrong as two left shoes. Retroactive alt-history with the benefit of hindsight can solve anything, congratulations.

      I’ll point out that identical “logic” can condemn Bernie Sanders for the Trump Presidency.

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        but it’s not retroactive. people called for rbg’s resignation at the time. a lot of the establishment pushed back, including herself. they pretended it would be bad for the court to do such things for political reasons.

        democrats love to lose. they live to lose. they talk civility and pretend they’re above politics. the whole entire fucking thing is political I’m so sick of these people. politicians pretending they’re above politics is like a plumber who pretends they’re above plumbing. they’re useless.

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          And yet they’re so good at beating progressives in the primaries and the caucuses. They literally dump unlimited amounts of cash in defeating progressives everywhere they go. The only ones that get in are those like AOC whom nobody thought had a chance so they didn’t bother to slap her down. So they just put her in a corner in the Congress instead.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/ :

    As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has.

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    When he said he wasn’t ever going to pardon his son, I knew that wasn’t true, and so did he. There was no reason to lie, yes it’s a political witch hunt, and the only reason they went after him is because of who he was, but he knew that.

    That’s another reason why I am disappointed in Biden.

    The democratic party needs all of its leadership gone, people like Pelosi are keeping the party down at the expense of the American people.

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      I’m actually of the opinion that he really meant what he said when he promised not to pardon his son. But then after the election I believe he was disappointed with the democratic party and the American public and realized that leaving his son in prison under Trump and a fully Republican Congress was dangerous (he’d already lost all of his other children). And decided to go against his own word. He really had nothing to lose in doing it. And I don’t think he gives a damn shit about the Democratic party anymore. I mean, I know I don’t.

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    idk he certainly did some decent stuff, and tried to do even more while being blocked by the other branches, but he broke his word several times.

    I’ll miss the boring politics as we faceplant back into potus orange haired toadus

    It’s been fine waking up every day simply concerned about the economy and people experiencing terrible things from afar, soon my morning concerns will include our local immigrants, a christofacist state, political retribution against some of the few politicians with some integrity, a further broken judicial system, broken education, banned abortions, broken social security, further broken health insurance. Ugh

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      Spare a thought for the persecuted trans people. We need to actively defend the minorities the fascists pick on.

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        frankly Im more concerned about muslim americans and Palestinians than I am about trans rights.

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          OK, but trans rights are a serious issue too. I don’t see that we have to rank who’s more important here. Everyone deserves basic human rights.

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      I’ll miss the boring politics as we faceplant back into potus orange haired toadus

      This is the thing I’ll miss the most. It was like the eye of a storm of bullshit. Like, I don’t need to worry that the president is going to talk about pedophilia at the fucking Boy Scout Picnic.

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      and tried to do even more while being blocked by the other branches,

      Joe ran the primary saying he alone could get the party platform past a republican majority Senate…

      That was literally his main stump point.

      After the GA runoffs surprised everyone with a 50/50 split, he immediately said it was ignorant to believe a 50/50 Senate could accomplish anything

      I’ll miss the boring politics

      Lots of terrible shit happened under Biden, the difference is people dont pay attention compared to when it’s a Republican

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      Yep, Which was another way of saying nothing will fundamentally improve either. Where is that old “Mission accomplished” banner from George W’s stupid flight suit speech after desert storm. Biden can reuse that.

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    Senile old man with a giant ego can’t remember what he’s said or what he’s done. A sad state

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    Laughs in student loan debt relief…… Which was coincidentally the only reason i even swallowed my pride and voted for this centrist billionaire puppet.

    Sick and tired of voting for the “lesser of two evils” when its clear both of which have puppet strings leading directly to blackrock, state street, vanguard and all the other war profiteering mutual fund wall street billionaires. The us political landscape has become a joke of blatantly fascist imperialism.

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      These are the words of a person who didn’t actually study what they are talking about. I invite you to re-reaearch this topic and find out why it failed instead of using it as an opportunity to grandstand about the Democrats.

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        In the 1930s prescott bush and all his other wall street legacy family robber barron buddies got together and propositioned one of the most decorated generals in US history, Smedly Butler to lead their coup attempt and overthrow the FDR administration and impose a fascist nazi style regime where the intersection of wall street and military industrial power would be in complete control of the government and media. These ultra wealthy industrialists were all big supporters of adolf hitler and even hosted a rally for him in Maddison square garden. Butler played along with their scheme until the last minute when he went to the house unamerican activities committee and testified against their plot. HUAC deemed his testimony credible but did nothing to punish those who devised the coup. Most likely because they were in their pockets.

        Now fast forward 90 some years and the son and grandson of the coup’s main architect were both sitting presidents and if you’re paying attention you can clearly see that wall street military and prison industry profiteers own our politicians and are the ones who have the ultimate say in maters of legislation and policy. They own all the media outlets and since Reagan and Bush sr. both vetoed attempts to legislate fairness in media laws that were standard practice up until 1987 their news outlets just spew right wing corporatist(a synonym for fascism) propaganda and it is an objective fact that there is now no left party in the American political landscape.

        Wake up, you don’t know what youre talking about. The main reason it failed is because the president has no real power and is nothing more than a puppet owned by a group of war mongering psychopaths who spend more on weekend vacations than you could earn in a dozen consecutive lifetimes

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          You… Really love grandatanding, huh?

          I ask you to re-research the subject and you go into this putin-esqe historical diatribe about power in the United States. Seek help brother.

          The president has never had much power, that’s kinda the whole point of our system of government you fucking rube. I’ll save you some trouble, the courts blocked him at every turn. Not a fan of the inaction of the Democrats but call a spade a spade, my guy - they tried.

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            Whats “Grandatanding”?

            Biden could have attempted using executive order to legislate student loan debt relief but he didn’t even make an attempt

            You have nothing to say about the fact that there is no left party in the US political landscape only a far right and a center right pretending to be left you only want to make excuses for the gerontocracy and pretend that they are making any progress when they are making absolutely no meaningful progress whatsoever.

            You’re just another propagandized fool who believes what billionaire news outlets, all owned by the same financial interests as the extreme far right news outlets, tell you to believe

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              I have nothing to say about those other things because I’m not an insufferable twat that is CONSTANTLY driving the conversation to that subject (your comment history dude, wtf?)

              And so let me get this straight, because I don’t address the extra unrelated bullshit YOU brought up, you’re not willing to even entertain another side? Or better yet, you certainly didn’t re-research the subject.

              Your moronic idea with executive orders proves you know so little about this subject and also concerns me I’ve been wasting my time speaking to a teenager.

              You just love logical fallacies, they permiate your comments. Strawman, red herrings, no true Scotsman, and false dichotomies. C’mon dude, if you’re going to be insufferable, at least be a good debater.

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    PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I kept my word—that when I said I was going to do something, I did it. My focus has always been on how to give ordinary people a shot. You’ve probably heard me say it before: my dad used to say, “Joey, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. It’s about your dignity. It’s about respect. It’s about being able to look your kid in the eye and say, ‘It’s going to be okay,’ and mean it.” It’s about being able to be yourself and focusing on people who need some help. The vast majority of the American people, all they want is a chance—just a chance—and they’ll do fine.

    Also Joe Biden months before pardoning his son for ‘any and all crimes’ committed over more than a decade:

    No one is above the law!

    But there’s a hell of a lot more Biden promised and never even tried.

    Hell, he said the only way he wouldn’t run in 2024 was if “the Lord almighty himself” told him to, then he dropped out

    Biden may have started 2020 with a few scraps of dignity left, but it’s all gone by now and he probably doesn’t even know. Geriatric politicians like him Pelosi probably honestly think we all love them.