Welp…
“America Party”
Americans really are the ultimate parody of themselves. Have fun with your civil war.
The “America Party”, started by a Nazi African. What a wild thing.
splitting the nazi vote
Yeah FR this is literally the best thing that could have happened for the USA simply because of spoiler effect.
This whole thing leaves such a sour taste that he should have called it a lemon party.
I’m not sure if I want this to fail or succeed.
Best case scenario is it will split the right wing vote. In Canada, we’re used to it going the other way with conservatives taking advantage of a split left.
Washington Post columnists said it would probably just capture the “Never Trumper” moderate Republican voters who currently begrudgingly vote Democratic because they understand that the Republican Party is nominating only yes-men and fascists.
Washington Post isn’t exactly a beacon of truth and justice.
Especially not their opinion column but I’m just posting here because it’s interesting to see what the neoliberals think about it and it’s a good discussion point
Washington Post is Murdoch connected as of December 2023 (new leader and Bezos began to flex his muscles at the paper). I hesitate to call it neoliberal. It’s moved right of that.
If you actually bother to read it (regularly, not just once or twice on selected columns that you saw posted online), you would not think that. The opinion column is very neoliberal with a hint of libertarianism.
I was an active subscriber who regularly read WashPo.
Ruth Marcus, Alexandra Petri and a whole slew of other liberals have left the post after the 2024 election and various tampering by Jeff Bezos. Or have you not noticed the change of writers yourself??
The ones who remained are hardly NeoLiberal, but overall have shifted farther and farther right. Jeff Bezos killing a few key OpEds have made it clear to the liberals that they are no longer welcome at the Washington Post.
Or what? You gonna try to convince me that Hugh Hewitt is a liberal or some shit?
The Dems leaned hard on the never Trumpers for votes last year and you can see where that got them. Elon can have them.
Republican never Trumper that doesn’t vote GOP is likely vanishingly small. They all fall in line.
It might siphon off the GOP voters that begrudingly fell in line because they bought the Communist Kamala or something, or the ones that needed to see Trump disaster a second time.
Same with the USA, the US Green Party is funded by Conservative PACs such as Badger Values. If there were left unity then the 8 million people who showed up for Biden 2020 would have shown up for Harris 2024, but a lot of people are convinced the DNC aren’t left enough and that primary elections are shams.
Yeah…
At best, it splits the MAGAt vote, making Dems a clear winner.
At worst, it takes some GenZ dipshit votes away from Dems and causes chaos.
Is it bad that I just expect a split Right-wing vote just allows the Dems to slide even more right and still win?
If it splits the republican party and removes the old white billionaires from the dems than I’m 100% for it.
Success means a split of the Republicans, because the vast majority of Dems aren’t going to follow Elon after these last few months.
I want this to succeed wildly.
I want it to split republicans and have both of them spectacularly fail elections.
I think it already has.
Is it splits the Republican vote, I’m all for it
The America Party run by a South African.
Popcorn is not enough for this country.
of all the things to shit on him for this isn’t it. being multi cultural is the only culture we have and almost all of us are immigrants.
I shit him for the name of the Party, not being South African.
White rich South African are devoid of culture just like every other rich profligate. They have no nation, creed, or ideals just an insatiable avarice.
That’s not true, the Musk family have a rich culture and long history of…
*checks notes
Supporting white supremacy and trying to overthrow democracy in several nations.
If it’s an insult to that crowd then it’s worth rubbing it in, and it certainly is.
I did nazi that coming.
I’ll just point out the risk of what I’ll call “Joe Roganing” here. Elon pretends he hates both parties while there’s no election coming up. Then when the election arrives he “makes up his mind” and endorses Republicans. This allows him to 1) attract people fed up with both parties just to hand them to Republicans, and 2) have a credible that that forces Republicans to do his bidding.
The funniest thing about stuff like this is that there are already a hundred political parties in the US. Every time someone says “we need a third party,” it reminds me of that xkcd comic about standards and protocols.
When people say that they want a third part I doubt they mean it literally, as in they believe there are literally only two parties, but rather I suspect they mean that they want a third party which is large and influencial.
Sort of. They usually mean it literally, but it’s rooted in the misunderstanding of the political system that most folks have. And I don’t blame them for this, I just find the grandiosity amusing.
That is a ridiculous comparison. More political parties are a good thing.
Not until the US election system is changed. Until then they are just irrelevant distractions.
What kind of shitty click bait is this?
The richest man in the world officially announced on Saturday that he has officially formed a new political party to challenge Republicans and Democrats alike.
He fucking tweeted that it was created, literally nothing official.
And when the president tweets it’s for some reason official and should be followed… We live in a really stupid age where the government and politics in the US is governed by social media.
All it takes is for one determined furry to pull up their programming socks and hack into Truth Social and start posting under Trump’s name and we’ll see that dry up real quick, unless he wants to make all his official announcements surrounded by uwu’s and lewd pictures of Pokémon.
Dollars to donuts it’s going to be stupid easy to do as well, because Trump is incapable of hiring competent employees or of paying whoever he does hire.
Nothing has disappointed me quite so much as leftist US hackers. I refuse to believe that your tech-savvy disrupters are all Nazis.
How much you wanna bet that his fucking password is Trump
Nazis. They’re Nazis. This is Nazis.
The only good thing of that is that the otherwise shitty FPTP system will make him and Trump go for each others throat.
Honestly, I am tentatively very excited about this. Not because I support that nazi in any way whatsoever. I am excited because he stands to be a significant spoiler for the GOPs elections.
He will pull a Joe Rogan and endorse Trump last minute.
Doubtful that the Musk party is going to swap in Hillary. But it is her turn.
Do they even really like him? I thought pretty much any Republican support for Elon came from his support/association with Trump
I will agree with this.
I highly doubt it. GOP is a person cult centred around Trump. They liked Musk as long as Trump liked him, but they all hate him now.
How many weeks before he gets bored and abandons it when things don’t immediately work, just like everything else in his useless life?
unlike rockets or cars, political party success in America is measured in dollars
He already bought himself an entire department with no oversight but got bored of it after a few months.
In 1962, Congress created the role of “special government employee,” which allows the executive branch, the legislative branch and independent federal agencies to bring on employees for specific roles on a temporary basis.
SGEs are limited to working for the government for no more than 130 days out of a 365-day period, though they can work multiple years, and they can either be paid or unpaid. NPR has reported that Musk is not being paid for his work with DOGE.
If you’re just going to copy and paste from an NPR article, you might as well provide a link while you’re at it.
He didn’t make it to 130 days. He never mentioned that. Also, the law does not constrain this administration. He got bored when he didn’t immediately become loved and gave up like the little baby he is. Stop giving these bumbling oligarchs the benefit of the doubt and a veneer of legitimacy. You are an active part of the problem when you do.
are they hiring? i have many expensive ideas with zero guarantees of success
I’m surprised he didn’t try to meme it up and call it the Lemon Party.
America party?
really?
I’m disappointed on the uncreative name.
was hoping for something stupid.
I hope this becomes big enough to split the right-wing vote. I wish him all the success possible.
Until right before the election he concedes and his voters go republican.
Doesn’t seem terribly likely to me for Musk to concede before the election. There’s still something to gain from it being public knowledge how many voted for you last election. This did happen recently in BC, Canada though, where the established conservatives bowed out at the last minute to give votes to the new far-right party.
Well not all the success possible…
Has he filed any paperwork? Gathered any signatures?
Didn’t think so. It’s just typical Elmo Skum: hurricane force hot air scented with billionaire quantities of bovine effluvia.
I fail to see how splitting up the fascists is anything but a good thing. Let them fight.
Yeah, this seems like it may actually be some good news in this endless sea of shit we’ve been in. But the chances of it actually going anywhere are pretty slim.
He can fuck right off. I don’t believe him and Trump are actually at odds and I think this is an attempt to create an opposition party that’s even more under conservative control than the Democrats are.
The chances that a real Elon party signifigantly stealing votes from the Republicans to the point it causes an actual vote split is basically nil. The voter base is stupid, but not so stupid to hand a brand new party anything out of the gate.
Now, controlled opposition, is a foundation of the farce that is Russian democracy, and both DT and Elon are staunch admirers of Putin’s system where its a mob masquerading as a government with total control
This is the wildest take I’ve seen so far.
It would split the vote amongst the least same, and consolidate the vote for Dems.
What’s the upside for Musk here?
Government contracts for his money-hommorhaging companies. A direct link to corrupt world leaders. The fascists aren’t above rigging elections and I have zero doubt that if they could they’d put control in the hands of the Republicans and place this new bullshit party in over Dems.
We’re not in a “normal” America, anymore. Billionaires absolutely cannot be trusted.
