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    3 hours ago

    Don’t worry, the Democratic establishment will figure out a way to quickly fuck this up before the midterm elections.

    I’m sure they will choose a panel of milquetoast corporate centrist neo-liberal fuck wads for the people to choose from and again blame it on voter apathy. add a little corporate campaign, finance rule, bending to funnel the most amount of money towards their desired candidate and you have the classic recipe for “ Why do Democrats always lose elections?”

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      So fucking tired of people blaming the “establishment”.

      The “establishment” didn’t give us Trump 2. Short-sighted, immature potential Democratic voters did.

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      Or they’ll make some catastrophic legislative or otherwise strategic error on purpose to make sure the Republicans are on even ground. There’s always a Parliamentarian or a “Blue Slip Rule” to help the Democrats steal defeat from the jaws of victory!

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          The Blue Slip Rule is not even a law, it’s “unofficial Senate tradition” that cost us a Supreme Court justice. The Democrats repeatedly shelf progressive legislation like student debt relief due to the advice of the Parliamentarian, an unelected appointee who the Republican have regularly fired when their opinion differs from the party’s legislative agenda. I could go on and on, volumes have been written on the phenomenon. How many individual occurrences of this need to happen before it forms the clear composite image of collaboration?

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      It is so much easier and so much more profitable to be the minority party of opposition to evil. You don’t need exciting new ideas, just exciting “back to normal” ideas. …and even “normal” can be made progressively shittier every cycle.

      The rich and powerful can handpick their favorite candidates, negotiate a few table scraps in the direction of normal that they’re willing to accept, and call it a win. The campaign industrial complex gets to make a shit load of money.

      Most importantly, their ultimate campaign slogan is “Vote for me, or else evil wins.” Easy money all around.

      Then when nothing good happens during a Democrats’s turn, they can blame Democrats and then the Republicans they handpick get to ratchet things back in the rich’s direction again.

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    The Republicans can’t be trounced, because they control the active implementation of the oligarchs plans. They either directly implement them if in power, or they signal those directives to the Democrats, who continue to implement the same plans, but in a passive way. They work in concert in this manner, but they must be continually seen to be in a legitimate contest for the ploy to work.

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    10 hours ago

    So Shittler will say elections are stolen and illegal when the midterms roll around and maga gets tossed to the curb? And then what?

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    Really, though, it says a lot about how shitty the democratic party is that the headline says “since 2018” instead of “since the beginning of time”. Trump is a disgusting, rancorous idiot. Everything about him is vile, from his appearance to his voice to his tiny reptilian brain. The fact that the democrats came in second to this human shitstain strongly suggests that the must have, oh i dunno, badly and repeatedly disappointed the american people.

    Maybe they could shit-can their entire leadership and get behind someone like Mamdani. Or just disband and make room for a new party.

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      How many places besides NYC do you think a candidate like Mamdani can win? And I guess I’m asking for even a single point of data that backs this idea up, vs just a hunch that America secretly wants to get far-left.

      We can’t wish a revolution into being, what are the first steps to getting there? How do we unite the people, stop fighting the culture wars so we can fight the class war?

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      I think a large proportion of Americans make hate and cruelty a primary consideration of their voting proclivities. It’s less about how bad the Democrats have fucked up and more about how they haven’t fucked up enough to get voters.

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    Same as the first Trump admin. Dude can’t govern, and people will respond to that. Except this time he’s ethnically cleansing rather than just doing covid wrong.

    Everyone in the US better hope dems can field a candidate through their fucked up primary system that’s gonna be young and re-electable. It’s gonna take at least 8 years to even slightly unfuck this mess.

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      8 years… ha ha ha!!! I know you said at least but I’m not sure will ever truly know how much they’ve fucked things up. I’m 55 and I doubt it will be fixed before I die.

      And if they don’t put some guardrails with some serious teeth and consequences to fix all of things most politicians generally followed in good faith it’s just gonna happen again. I’m seriously starting to believe the American experiment is over. Late stage capitalism, tribalism, and any appearance of empathy have killed it.

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        I’m 28 and I doubt it’ll be meaningfully fixed before I die. Shit’s been beyond fucked basically my entire adult life, and just regular fucked since well before that.

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        Yeah I agree, we’ve been truly fucked since Doge. This might be the end of the experiment, but the empire will limp along for a long time, it’s just how comfortable it is to sit in the maw for us plebs.

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    The only Congresional poll that matters is the one next November, and Republicans are doing everything they can to make sure that they can still control Congress, even if the Majority of voters don’t want them to.

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      Not true at all. Every well-conducted and reliable poll matters, because it determines where campaign money will be spent, where volunteers will be directed, what stops candidates make, and what issues to press on and which to pivot back to stump on.

      Pretty dumb myopic take you have there, actually.

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        No, I think it’s the only correct take. Otherwise people get complacent. I don’t give a shit if the Democrats’ margin is large, it needs to be larger next November to counteract Republican ratfuckery. If Democrats are not ignoring this poll and managing this as if they are really 8 points down, they’ve already lost.

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          I disagree that it’s the only correct take.

          The argument is “Data may cause people to behave in ways I don’t want them to, so I will assail the data to guide people to behaviors I do want.”

          Like, I can understand and respect your position, but I don’t think it’s the only correct take.

          I think that the structure of your argument is also used broadly by many groups to do terrible things. One can debate the merits of fighting fire with fire, but let’s at least do so with complete awareness.

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          This is the way. People need to show up in overwhelming numbers to the midterms, this time. It’s the only way to effectively counter Trump’s agenda. Democrats need to have the power to not only reverse course on what he’s doing, but also to remove him from office and prosecute every last mutherfucking one of them.

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    Which is exactly why the nazis in charge are already undermining elections and have been for years. Building up deniability in the minds of their racist voters to make it easier to control the results if not throw them out entirely.

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    Because for almost a year now the DNC has been taking all the money Hillary/Biden/Kamala stole from state parties, back to the state parties.

    Who have been using the funds to work at campaign staffing levels we usually only see for a few months before election.

    That outreach is working, and no one should be surprised.

    It’s just the goal of neoliberlism is a neoliberal president and at most either the House or Senate. If/when they get it all, they have to make up excuses for why they’re not doing what they said they’d do.

    It’s like when an athlete bets their team will win, but not beat the spread…

    Sometimes they end up losing the game by trying to keep it close. But their motivation isn’t winning games, it’s hitting the sweet spot where they get a bunch of unethical money

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    Why clog up .world’s front page with tabloids like rawstory and dailybeast? They just repost stuff with an angry headline and Twitter links. Why not link the original source?

    Here it is, for reference:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/poll-frustration-trump-gives-democrats-opening-year-midterms-rcna240551


    But I’ve brought this up many times. Mods and posters don’t seem to care.

    …Eh. I’m blocking this community.

    I like most posts, but I’m sick of seeing tabloid outrage on the front page every day, like Reddit.

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    The US is a one party state … with two different divisions of the party alternating leadership

    There are only two political options in the US … stupidity or even more stupidity

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      Dems : maybe we shouldn’t wreck healthcare anymore than it already is?

      Republicans : WE WILL LITERALLY SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AND STARVE YOU TO DEATH TO PROTECT A CHILD RAPIST AND SAVE BILLIONAIRES A COUPLE MIL ON TAXES!

      You : These guys are basically the same, right?