Other similar polls in the timeframe put “would want to” at about 9% as well. Some are even phrased as “would vote to”.

What surprised me was the 18-34 demo who are apparently about 17% for it.

That being said, the quality of a lot of these polls aren’t great. Many aren’t random samples and come with a big disclaimer.

But, still, none have been as high as 20%. That’s crazy high as a national average. Really curious breakdown by state. The most support for joining to USA is AB and it’s still around just 13%. This suggests the most “I want to leave” state wants to join Canada much more than the most “I want to leave province” wants to join the USA.

Trump is going to say it was on purpose, for some stupid reason.

No, but I expect many will be family

The most telling thing about the character of a person is what they dream of when there is a boot on their neck.

Some dream of becoming powerful enough to rid the world of those who would be a boot on the necks of others.

Some merely dream of becoming powerful enough to be the boot.

There are already plenty of parallels between how Putin seized power and Trump. If he’s following the playbook, a false flag should be coming down the pipe any day.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, there was kinda a “fire sale” of government assets… They just got “sold” (effectively handed) to people who were favoured by the leaders of the time. This was how these Russian oligarchs came to be.

I think this is where the wind is blowing in the USA. Tear apart anything the government does and hand the responsibility for those things as private contracts, and to just hand those contracts to whomever seems like they’d be a good soldier.

Basically, rip all of the copper out of the walls, sell it at 10% market rate to the PayPal mafia, and then let them sell you copper-as-a-service.

Not sure if it’s what OP meant, but I think Russia winning is what sets the immutable path to world war.

This is a test of the global west. If it faulters, Russia takes another stab at Europe within 5 years. China at Taiwan. Probably coordinated on timing to further test the resolve of the west.

I look forward to whatever material action is precipitated from this symbolic gesture.

They’ll just go buy what they want tomorrow. By the time the company is reporting quarterly earnings it’ll have averaged back into place. Doesn’t scare investors at all. Literally zero pressure applied.

And like, do you think anyone of consequence is looking at intra-day sales? By the time anyone actually gets hard data, it will be over.

Honestly I can’t think of a better analogy than my toddler having a tantrum in his room holding his breath when I’m not even in the room. He’ll have made up for it with some deep breaths after and I won’t even know it happened until it’s over.

Reconnaissance-in-force

Yeah I think using a renamed version of the test could be a good way to try and find gaps between aspiration and current state of foundational skills, for certain aspirations.

If a kid dreams of being a lawyer, but their scores are on the tail end, that’s a perfect opportunity to revisit the foundations of formal logic. Just because some kids have managed to grok those foundational concepts independent of school doesn’t mean others are incapable. Because let’s face it, secondary school isn’t teaching formal logic.

That being said, real tailored mechanisms would be superior to finding gaps. But, in the absence of such mechanisms, an IQ test could be an accessible stand-in.

And what if I called a rose a stinkweed?

I think it’s a completely valid criticism, and I agree with the critism.

I just think semantic hang-ups are really… Exhausting and of minimal value. Terrible ratio.

Extend the principle of charity, hurdle it, then get to the meat.

I think there is and always has been massive contention in even defining intelligence. Is it the same as wisdom? What about being smart? Are these all the same thing? How does experience inform success in general problem solving? What even IS a “general” problem?

I think it’s still a valuable tool to assess peoples ability to recognize and apply transformations, implications, boolean operators, and arethmetic sequences.

But the idea that it provides some insight into the innate nature of a mind is preposterous. You CAN study for an IQ test: exactly the 4 things I mentioned are things you can study, and once you’ve mastered you’ll be sitting on a 160+ result.

So, the base underlying assumption that these things are not learnable. That is wrong.

But, the idea that mastery of implication, transformation, boolean operators and arethmetic sequences don’t provide a foundational system for certain tasks is also maybe not quite right either…

A 100m dash time probably loosely correlates to some abstract measure of “athleticism”, which may correlate to success likelihood for certain tasks. IQ correlates to some abstract measure of pattern recognition, which may correlate to success in certain tasks.

To your point that the designers intended it to be a measure of the abstract notion of innate intellectual capacity, yeah maybe that was the attempt. Maybe that’s how they pitched it. It isn’t. Tough shit.

But that doesn’t suddenly imply it’s nothing.

Like most things (a degree, years of experience, SAT score, story points, Myers-Briggs etc etc) capitalism has completely fucked them. Business is so fucking lazy they just want to boil down assesment for suitability to enumerable values on a form. Just because metrics are inappropriately used and abused by capitalism doesn’t mean they’re not measuring something.

So, this was a super lengthy reiteration that IQ tests measure something, but it isn’t “innate general intelligence”. But to say it’s as irrelevant as “freshness of breath” is maybe hyperbolic.

It’s a relative measure of performance for narrow and specific set of tasks. It’s not BS, that’s like saying the 100m dash is BS. It’s just that people have wildly overstated the general implications of the measure.

I mean, there probably is: you can’t have trillions of dollars moving through that many hands without something shady happening.

But like, DOGE isn’t going to find it. They can’t. They’re operating as if fraud means money just “vanished”. Like they’re going to find some account is missing a billion dollars nobody can account for. That’s not what fraud looks like at scale.

It’ll be more like, contracts awarded (or not awarded) based on listening to businesses say things that they know not to be true, intentionally misrepresenting information and their positions to shape public spending. For example, convincing California to not build transit because you promise you can dig them tunnels, when you know full well you’re never going to build them tunnels.

That’s what fraud looks like, and there isn’t a DB query for that.

Not saying he hasn’t tried. “SELECT * FROM government WHERE fraud_flag = ‘fraud’;”

“Damn, didn’t work”

“Maybe the flag is ‘secret_fraud’…”

Things have changed a lot since '14.

Like “on the one hand it’s a hassle having your husband be president”

“… Buton the other hand… I want my daughters to have rights…”

Ah yes. The “I’m too scared to run against Obama” clause

If the SC allows for a 3rd term as an option, it’ll be Trump v Obama 2028.

He’s not an asshole for disliking a Nazi. He’s an asshole for deciding to spring a question he knows the answer to which apparently demands of him to boycott a wedding.

His idiot brother likes Elon Musk. The brother isn’t disinviting him. OP is the one who created and is enforcing a rule about Elon.

I have no idea what the family dynamics are, but if they’re otherwise good and you’re willing to burn your family relationships because they don’t share your views on Elon Musk, wowza.

It’s amazing to me how willing people are to play the part of the shrill reee-ing blue haired archetype foil that Republicans created.

I’m going to get drunk and ruin a wedding. THAT will fix the world.

No, dumbass, it’s going to validate everything fox news has been telling their base about the left. You have absolutely no self awareness, and will ruin your brother’s wedding as if he was the CEO of Shell even though he’s a construction worker in rural Montana.

Be the strawman the Republicans want you to be!