ICE’s approval rating among Americans currently sits at negative 13 points, a recent poll revealed.
More Americans support abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency than at any point since it was established in 2003, new polling shows.
According to data examined by Civiqs, 42% support getting rid of the agency while 50% oppose doing so, a split of just 8 points. This represents a major shift from a year ago, at the start of Donald Trump’s second term, when only 24% of Americans supported abolishing ICE and 59% opposed the idea, a 35-point split.
The 27-point change over the past year comes as Trump uses the agency to terrorize immigrant communities and overrun U.S. cities in the name of his mass deportation campaign, often using tactics that are not only harmful but illegal.
Times like this, I really wish I lived in a democratic country
Ngl, when people spoke of abolishing ICE in years past, I thought it was an extremist take. I was always of the mindset that you can’t just have an open border, and you need someone to man the border. Having said that, this current iteration needs to be abolished in every way, shape, and form.
One of the biggest lies ever told is we can’t have open borders. The reason so many people overstay their visas is because they won’t be able to come back if they leave. Very few of them want to stay. They would prefer to work for a season and go back home with money and the favorable exchange rate.
The issue with immigration is not the illegals. It is the corporations that illegally work undocumented people. They are actively incentivizing them to come into this country. Tyson chicken is one of the largest employers of illegal immigrants in this country and no administration has does ANYTHING about it. If there was no work, people wouldn’t come.
Customs and Border Protection (CBP) could probably fill in, tho they’re also part of the DHS so under the current admin it wouldn’t be much better
Most American citizens are overwhelmingly united on many issues.
Unfortunately, most American politicians are overwhelmingly united on NOT giving us what we want.
50% oppose doing so
It will never cease to amaze me just how incredibly and willfully uninformed the average American is.
Yes, millions (mostly Republicans) support ICE, but how many millions are total NPCs who genuinely have never had a conscious thought in their entire life? How many is it questionable as to whether they’ve ever developed object permanence?
This is why we need colossal and organized protests. Because the hyper majority of these dumbfuck Americans would have NEVER even known anything was wrong if they didn’t see all the protesting.
Not because they’re isolated from its consequences, but because they genuinely do not form any thoughts independently. They truly are the absolute dumbest fucking people who exist that haven’t forgotten how to eat or breathe.
Remember, ~21% of American adults are functionally illiterate. Pair that with nearly 1 in 3 adults have rather low-level numeracy ( https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2020/2020025/index.asp ).
I’d not be surprised if low literacy and low numeracy cluster with lack of critical thinking skills and the fundamentals of morality.
Then add in all the many many distractions - celebrity/“influencer” culture, movies, TV, video games, and the old standby: sports and gambling.
It’s no wonder a whole lot of people are tuned out and have no idea what is going on.
Frankly the entire DHS is a redundant duplication of agencies that already existed. The reason for this is because the rich need a domestic secret/military police that can go door-to-door arresting dissidents, organizers, and protesters labeled “domestic terrorists”, and violently put down mass protests.
It’s also a graft scheme so assholes like Michael Chertoff, Tom Homan, and Krist Noem can rip off tax payers.
Well basically everything but the Coast Guard who I am convinced was shoved in there to try to build resistance to just dissolving the DHS.
Meaning that still not all Americans do
What. The. Fuck.
Yeah we’re literally surrounded by dead eyed brainwashed nazi enablers. It’s almost impossible to reason with these propagandized imbeciles when were up against a Zionist billionaire funded propaganda machine
50% oppose doing so
I don’t know if I’d support abolishing them. But I would definitely support reeling them in, defunding them by a lot, and having a lot more oversight, including from the states, on where they can go, and how they are used. All the cosplaying bullshit should be taken away from them (and cops, too) - the militarization is just ridiculous.
And for sure - none of these fuckers should be masked. Not ONE of them should be allowed to do that job anonymously.
If those changes are not on the table, yeah, abolish ICE.
So I really wonder how that 50% looks if you were to dig in. Probably a LOT of nuance in there.
Their only job is to enforce a law that has made it a crime to be a brown person from another country who is just trying to make a better life for themselves. We don’t need ICE. Their job only exists because of racism. It should not me as difficult as it is to become a legal citizen in the US. Very few people would be here illegally if the path to citizenship wasn’t so god damn difficult to begin with.
I saw a reel today from what i consider a credible enough source, (still plan to look this up but i feel it’s credible enough to base this comment on).
There’s a major problem that needs to be dealt with when talking about any kind of enforcement.
Firstly, US citizens DO NOT require to have any form of ID or papers on them, at all, for any reason. Yet visa holders, immigrants, vacationers, etc, have to carry their papers AT ALL TIME or that’s a federal violation.
Secondly, ICE has no jurisdiction over US citizens. If they ask me anything, i don’t have to comply. As long at I’m not interfering with their job, as to be arrested for obstruction of justice. Their job is solely to enforce immigration laws.
So the problem this creates is that they can just claim I’m not a citizen and arrest me for not having proper documentation. Best case scenario, they look me up in the system, see I’m a citizen, and let me go. Worst case? Well, yeah, we are seeing that unfold every day in the news.
Boot lickers will say, well just carry your ID, and comply! And miss the entire point. There’s due process violations happening all across the country, people being arrested just because, to intimidate us into cowering in a corner while they kidnap and torture folks. So either we cave and start to carry our IDs, which won’t help when they claim it’s a fake ID, and allow them to ratchet up again to only allowing certain people to have IDs, or whatever fascist BS they have planned next for their white, christian ethnostate.
Or no one needs to carry around an ID and just abolish ICE all together because we don’t need to enforce immigration laws, just make it easier. Think of the extra tax dollars that could be had if non citizens could spend their money without worrying about being deported! Plus the extra money for not paying another useless enforcement agency. For those one off cases, i would rather a percentage go to the FBI for a division that investigates non citizen crime, and let the courts handle deportations.
We don’t need ICE. We’ve got so many overlapping alphabet agencies we don’t need yet another bloated gestapo. ICE, CBP, USCIS, etc. a warrant to a local PD to arrest someone should be sufficient, not a convoy of masked military cosplay racists shooting people because their fee fees got hurt.
I’m so tired of hearing about polling data.
It is good people want to Abolish ICE. But you still have to deal with bipartisan obsessed Dems who won’t ever agree to it.
They overwhelmingly supported abolishing ice pre 2020 and the Democrats response was increasing funding to their highest levels. They will never get rid of a tool they love utilizing
I think this pretty much answers the question “are humans evil?” Spoiler, yes.
Doesn’t matter so long as Republicans are in power.
They had to do a poll to figure this out?
Yes! Half of the population is still fine with this!
Americans don’t support domestic terrorists. Who would have thought?
Except that 50% of those polled do support them, which is higher than the percentage who don’t according to this same poll.
Those aren’t Americans, those are brownshirts.
Good sign overall ahead of midterms this year. I’d much rather this than see more of the country cheering this on.
Register and vote Democrat.
Edit: Democratic Primaries are coming first, and IF you don’t know for a fact that your state has Open Primaries, then you must register Democrat in order to try to vote in more progressive Democratic candidates and vote out aipac trash from the party.
Edit 2: Whew, lots of wedge-driving bots from .ml and hexbear asserting classic false-equivalence whataboutism fallacies in order to sow defeatism and apathy.
The only one throwing around fallacies would be you
Democrats have contributed to the situation we are in.
Democrats are the only way to improve the situation we are in.
(Audience beware the lemmy.ml / hexbear poster who submits garbage like, “Republicans are honest fascists. Democrats are fascists in disguise.” lol.)
Then why have the material conditions for the working class gotten worse over the last 25 years when your Democrats have been in power for 13 of them? Democrats are covert fascists
You don’t understand how Congress works, do you?
It’s working exactly as designed. I know your next stage is to blame Republicans for obstruction, but why is it Republicans get everything they want regardless if they hold the majority and if they hold the minority? Yet Democrats are ineffective in both scenarios.
