Attorney General Pam Bondi was so furious with six federal prosecutors who announced they would resign rather than prosecute the widow of a Minnesota woman killed by an ICE agent that she fired them before they had a chance to give their notice.
As a Minnesotan, I’ve had a lot of conversations with friends, family, and neighbors lately about what is going on
Most are pissed about ICE being here, and how they’re acting. Some, however, are 100% MAGA, and happy ICE is here
There is one thing everyone seems to agree on though: ICE being in Minnesota is political retaliation
We’re a state with ~2% of the population of the US. We have less than 2% of the immigrants due to our location and climate. Yet 20-30% of ICE agents are now here
If you’re not MAGA, you’re an immigrant.
I so want to see her on the stand at some point. Under oath, and not in an environment controlled by conservatives, either.
She should lose her head
Dumb of her. You have more protections when fired than if you just quit. It’s almost always in your best interest to have a shitty boss fire you and have those protections than leave voluntarily and have almost none.
She was:
Murdered!
Damn Pam. Ok,you broke up with them. Not the other way around. We got it.
Somebody literally needs to remind this lady to stop and take a breath before she passes out mid rant.
Or maybe we get lucky and she has a stroke.
There is no statute of limitations on murder, Johnathan Ross. This one is around your neck for life.
He’ll be pardoned by Trump. All of ICE probably will be.
*Supremacy clause https://youtube.com/shorts/Lk6tOvIu4qw this does not look good
Border patrol agents have no jurisdiction over US citizens. They didn’t have the authority to stop her and try to remove her from her car in the first place so, what they were doing was unlawful from the start. That should disqualify him from using the supremacy clause, before we even get into debate on whether lethal force was justified or not.
ICE isn’t border patrol.
As for whether this was part of their duties, that’s the question and oh boy this is going to be messy in the courts.
Ah, I thought he was border patrol, but he’s ICE, and you’re right. ICE also doesn’t have jurisdiction over US citizens though. I think it’s pretty clear that there was no probable cause to believe she, or her wife, were potentially illegal immigrants, were aiding illegal immigrants, or were impeding the agent’s investigation in any way, given that she was initially trying to wave them to go around her.
If/When we have a functioning DOJ again, Ross is going to prison.
This is assuming we ever had a functioning DOJ.
Only works for federal crimes
Presidential pardons only work for Federal crimes. It also does not protect the murderer from a civil suit (see OJ Simpson).
The state of Minnesota can wait until there is a more friendly administration before bringing charges, since there is not statute of limitations on murder. Also, the supremacy clause does not protect murderer Johnathan Ross from civil litigation.
You attached that TikTok-like video without properly reading the comment you were responding to.
EDIT:
Let’s address @[email protected] 's edit below. He is not wrong, but he is being overly defeatist and thus ignoring several key points.
- Administrations do matter. As we have seen with Trump and his failed prosecution, administrations get to install federal judges and it is up to the federal judge whether or not this becomes a federal case.
- A presidential pardon carries an admission of guilt, which is part of your permanent criminal record, which definitely affects your ability to find employment, travel, etc.
- Civil suits can be a terrible fate and should not be dismissed as Someguy3 is doing. A severe judgment against you can be an insurmountable and lifelong financial burdern. Even if as a convicted, yet pardoned murderer you happen to find a job, the civil suit will garner your wages. Own a house? Not anymore. People like OJ and Alex Jones have/had the means to avoid a lot of this, but murderer Johnathan Ross? Not likely without a very rich benefactor, in which case Mrs Good’s widow and children would be set for life while murderer Ross would still carry that albatross around his neck for life. Ideal? No, but things rarely are.
The state of Minnesota can wait until there is a more friendly administration
People need to stop saying “wait until after the election”.
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that’s over 2 years from now with a murderer free to kill more people.
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this adminstration is going to do everything they can to make sure there isn’t a “next administration.”
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There were two parts to this. First is criminal and second is civil, you even used the word “also” to separate them.
Criminal: Again, Trump can preemtively pardon him and all of ICE. And the supremacy clause will be in play determined by the court. That’s the whole point.
*I guess I’ll try again in more detail. There are two parts to criminal. 1) state criminal charges. This is where Supremacy clause comes in. This is determined by a judge, not by the administration. Administration does not matter. 2) federal criminal charges. Trump will likely preemptively pardon him. So future DOJ (appointed by future administration) will not be able to federally charge him. Administration does not matter.
Civil: I don’t think civil charges are what anyone wants here. If you are satisfied with possible civil charges, you are missing the entire big picture. Like seriously you think possible civil charges is going to fix ICE shooting people in the face? JFC. I didn’t respond to it because you and everyone else should want criminal charges. Ciao.
pardons don’t work for state crimes
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They should have just not said anything dragged their feet while at work while slowly eating up annual/sick leave to really slow everything down. Now there are 4 vacancies that could have been tied up for the better part of a year.
I agree with “don’t quit, impede” philosophy, but a very public show of support against these fascist actions is not something to dismiss.
Weren’t these the people earlier this week who supposedly resigned, of which people were complaining about. Now it comes out they were actually fired before they even could…
Maybe people should realize there might have been more going on that we aren’t privy to.
All this ‘not good enough’ thinking does is breed toxicity and in-fighting. Both of which are not good when trying to form a solidarity.
Weren’t these the people earlier this week who supposedly resigned, of which people were complaining about. Now it comes out they were actually fired before they even could…
The prosecutors announced their intent to resign, and would have done so after using up their allocated PTO. A fairly standard practice in professional environments. Pam Bondi fired them in retaliation for announcing their intent to resign
She claimed it was because they wanted a tax payer funded vacation, but anyone who understands the basics of unemployment, especially in Minnesota, can tell you she just gave them even more tax payer money (if they want it). Not only will they be entitled to their PTO, but they are not also entitled to unemployment
We also dont know the situation that led up to them resigning and getting fired. They very well could have been trying to drag their feet but were already under immense pressure to file charges immediately. No amount of feet dragging can help if the Nazis are literally hovering over you as you fill out the paperwork.
“Oh, yeah, you see how they checked this box here? That means we also need a DD-2319 form signed in triplicate here. That’ll need to be approved by two levels of management, so we’ll need to form a committee to assess its suitability before raising it for a vote during our Change Control Board meeting, which only occurs monthly. Sorry about that. Don’t worry, I’ll get it fast-tracked for you.”
You do realize they likely don’t care about doing things the right way, as they’ll just have Trump approve any bypass, whether legal or not.
Bingo. Drag your feet, use up time. File shitty motions you know won’t work to tie up the courts. Sabotage is hard work, but slowing the gears of the Orphan Crushing Machine is important and actually pretty easy to do when it’s the federal government.
What? They want to prosecute the widow? What for? Fucking monsters.
Can they sue for wrongful termination or something?
I’m sure I read some suggestion of charging her with felony murder; as in she committed a felony (anyone’s guess what that would even be) and as a result her wife got shot, which somehow makes it her fault.
Who is that?
Damn hes got a great hairline
HBO reporter that interviewed Trump a few years back
Be warned, it’s extremely painful to watch: https://youtu.be/NmrEfQG6pIg
I’m not surprised that Hannity finds it “almost impossible to comprehend” that someone would resign to uphold their principles.
Both of these talking heads are puppets with the hands of the same puppeteer up their asses.
FOX news needs to be destroyed. Preferably with everyone still inside.
I had the chance to give the staff diarrhea but I felt bad for people like the camera operator or whatever… I worked for a company involved with Dairy Queen and Carvel ice cream and at the start of the “ice cream season” fox does a morning show with them as a advertisement. I was so close to putting exlax in the mix but I decided against it… I still kick myself for not doing it but it wouldn’t have reached assholes like Hannity anyway.
The fact that these monsters would even think of going after the victim’s wife tells you all you need to know about the conservative mind.
Man who would think a corrupt AF soulless scumbag like her would do such a thing.
It wasn’t her intention, but she did effectively help those prosecutors
She handed them a bulletproof unemployment claim. Now they’ll get their PTO paid out in a lump sum, but they’ll also be eligible for unemployment on top of it
Minnesota unemployment decisions are very favorable to workers
More posturing to look like they’re taking charge. I don’t know if any of what I’m about to say is true but if those attorneys already had the accrued PTO, they will get their pay for that time anyway, at least that’s how it’s worked anywhere else I’ve worked in the US. Also, if they can prove that the firing was retaliatory, they may be able to get further compensation and payouts.
Like I said, I know nothing of their employment/contracts so I could be talking out of my ass, but if what I said is true then the government is paying more money than they would be if they just let the prosecutors resign. I could be wrong once benefits are included.
Overall, my theory lines up with yours. They knew thr simple minds at the top would fire them, and somehow that benefits them. They are lawyers after all, and getting hired into the jobs they had makes it very likely they were at least savvy in political maneuvers.
