TimmyDeanSausage

I think she means like what she recently intentionally played a role in facilitating

Why not? All they have to do is make a single payer option available. Make it functional and accessible, and people will switch to it as their current insurance policies end, or when they move to their next job. The health insurance stock market will likely initially dive, then stabilize into a long downward slope. I’m sure the feds have all kinds of “quantitative-easing” tools they can use to make the process less painful for the ownership class. Whatever pain they do feel would be a necessary consequence of the wrongs they have committed being made right.

The obvious solution is to put a plan into place to transition to a new system over time. There’s no reason it has to come all at once, unless there’s a viable way to do that without collapsing markets.

The conclusion to any problem is never, and should never, be “Welp! The problem is too big to fix now! Guess we’ll just leave it as it is!”. Every problem has a solution. Most problems have more than one.

Further than that, as a recently unemployed working class person who was paycheck to paycheck before my freelance gigs dried up a month and a half ago (slow season started early this year), fuck the stock market. Why should I worry about the extractors losing money when they have already created a system in which, through no lack of effort on my part, I have nothing left to lose. I’m in the top 10% of technicians in my city, in a very niche field, in one of the largest cities in the US, and I can’t afford my bills because my industry is dominated by a single monopoly. Anyone who doesn’t serve the monopoly directly either serves it indirectly, or feeds on its scraps. Small company owners (I’ve worked with many) justify paying people just slightly more than the starvation wages the monopoly doles out. Unions are gaining ground, but it’s very slow progress and they haven’t really expanded far beyond entry level positions yet, which I leveled out of well over a decade ago.

Fuck the stock market. Fuck the rich. Why should I care about them when all they do is extract?

According to their big boy story book, god killed the entire human race once because he gave them free will and didn’t like how they turned out. That’s supposed to be the actions of a just god…

I think this is what makes our propaganda machine the most affective one in the world. China and Russia beat their citizens into submission, while the US breeds true believers from birth and use them to beat the rest of the population into submission so affectively the non-believers can’t fight the ruling class because their hands are tied fighting with the cult of self-imposed calamity.

You didn’t answer the question. You repeated your assertion that you’re more intelligent then (apparently) all working class people, yet you don’t seem capable of producing a coherent argument explaining why you believe that?

Well… We’re having this discussion on a text based website… Clearly, both of us can read. Unfortunately, in your case, reading ability doesn’t correlate with comprehension ability.

And all I do is resent the billionaire class, who are actively extracting all of our wealth. I didn’t ask about your feelings though. I asked why you think the recent election justifies blatant classism against the working class.

Who exactly is “you people”?

I’m working class and I very much want to look out for myself. I didn’t vote for this. I vote for the most progressive candidates I can every 2 years. Do I deserve to suffer the consequences of others actions?

Why does this news justify blatant classism for you?

No… I’m not. Governing people and leading people are the same thing. I’m referencing doing it at two different scales. As you go up in scale, the rules change. Things like authoritarianism, socialism, libertarianism and communism work for small groups of people, but not when you start getting into populations in the millions.

It’s not irrelevant. They’re saying that the people you hold up as some kind of supremely enlightened few of a special era, were in fact products of their time who believed in a lot of silly things with no basis in science/reality, and committed many atrocities themselves.

I was a die-hard libertarian when I was 18. Then I learned a lot more about how the government actually functions. The more you know, the more painfully obvious it becomes that, not only is democratic government extremely necessary to support a civilization of our size, but also that uncoordinated government is literally impossible at scale. Try to lead a group of 20+ people in any activity and the importance of coordinated leadership will become evident very quickly.

Is your point that this is fear mongering, or that the struggle between classes has been an ongoing fight for most of recorded history?

In other words; a bunch of ultra wealthy nepo-babies with the IQ/EQ comparable to the average 14 year old boy are hanging out at a luxury country club deciding the future of our nation, and despite having collectively been in the game for almost a decade, they still have no idea what they’re doing.

We’ve come full circle, back to the “founding fathers” in terms of letting the wealthy few decide our future, yet our modern cast of wealthy few are wealthy fools who likely wouldn’t survive a week without their personal assistants.