It’s impressive how hard these people lick boots.
Good fucking luck with that hurdle.
They need a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or a conventio called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Then it has to be ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states.
Even if they managed a super majority on both sides of Congress for Trumplefuck, there’s no way they’re getting 38 States to agree to that.
It’s sad that you guys still think the rule of the constitution is some massive roadblock that they’ve somehow missed. They literally made an Executive Order that just says “No” to the very first sentence of the 14th amendment, do you think none of them noticed? They get to have a vote about ludicrous things, and they get to gleefully destroy the lives of any Republican who dares vote against them. Maybe it gets struck down for the time being? Who cares, the courts are packed, they can realistically just start killing people pretty soon and it’ll start with the disloyals and the true believers as needed as it always does.
You cannot logical trap nor get off on technicalities fascists. It does not matter to them, they will just do what they want anyways, all that matters is if they can crush anyone who tries to stop them.
They are pushing the boundaries of the conversation and they are testing the waters, and every time they’re pushed back on they use the limp push back to consolidate more power because nobody has been willing to actually stop them.
With all due respect, that is some real defeatist dog shit. Yes, Trump and cronies have no respect for the constitution or the rule of law. But if we collectively roll over at the first fascist executive order, that’s exactly what they want us to do… They are testing the waters. The supreme court is packed, but every circuit court in the country certainly isn’t. And that’s where these battles are already being fought. We need to collectively resist every encroachment, every power grab. Otherwise we’re nearly as culpable as Trump for the rise of fascism.
If you aren’t willing to kill them then they will inch forward until they win. That is why civil wars have existed.
Violence isn’t the only way to fight fascism. It’s surely a way. But the courts and the school districts are two early battle grounds where folks are already pushing back (non-violently) and preventing some of that inching forward.
Preventing some, some of the time, is how you get here, inch by inch, and eventually earlier wins become future losses.
Look at it this way… We have a portfolio of tools to fight fascism. Sometimes, yes, the proper response to a specific incursion is direct action. Sometimes you can accomplish more with other means (fighting back in the courts, etc.). It doesn’t have to be all or nothing, and in fact I’d argue you accomplish the most by picking your tools wisely for each battle.
There are only two tried and true methods I am aware of to stop fascists:
- Killing them
- Making them kill themselves
I’m going to enjoy seeing this comment get removed. I’ll think about it as I’m put on the train to the death camp.
I think the logic is sound… If anyone is allowed to introduce legislation against established reforms infinitely many times, you get gish galloped to death and they will eventually get their way no matter how terrible the idea is. Because it’s a deep ideology, you must get rid of the person to get rid of the idea.
Trump is the candidate during next election
Red States let him be an option even though they shouldn’t
He wins enough red States to have a majority
They name him president even though it’s against the Constitution
The supreme Court is packed with his picks so they don’t do anything about it
Tada! Civil war? Dissolution of the USA? Who knows!?!
Trump is ruling by executive order and no one is stopping him from doing any of it, constitutional or not.
He’ll just issue an executive order to lower the threshold and at best that order gets challenged and goes to the SCOTUS, and we all know what will happen there.There’s already an injunction against one of his orders. I’m sure more will come.
Unfortunately those are only for the states that filed suit against it.
The Night of the Long Knives would like to have a word with you
It’s obviously completely performative, this is a very common move in US politics in general, I’ve noticed–introducing a bill they know is definitely not going to pass, but makes them look good to their base.
It’s cute how so many in the comments think the legal checks will prevent this. They don’t care about the law or the Constitution in the same way they don’t care about optics, hypocrisy, decorum, or process. People keep viewing this through the lense of American democracy. None of that matters to fascists.
They care about the law the same way the nazi’s cared about the law until the night of the long knives. I suspect their mass deportation plan is really them gearing up for the night of the long knives 2.0.
Night of broken glass comes first.
Wait for them to loot and pillage “immigrant” owned businesses.
After four years of them being in power, he’ll probably just be able to…not leave, regardless of any election. Who would stop him?
Presumably someone with better aim than the last shooter.
I’d be very careful as a wannabe dictator in a land with this many guns. The next four years are going to be tense for everyone.
Trump even said he shouldn’t have left in 2020. So think that is the plan already.
The constitution says he’s no longer president Jan 20.
The Constitution is just a piece of paper unless someone enforces it.
I can’t like this comment enough!!! When will we learn they DON’T PLAY BY THE RULES. If the magats want this to pass, they will manipulate, intimidate, bend, or break the rules to do it. This is how coups happen. They don’t sit down and ask nicely, they just DO IT and back it up with military force if they have to.
They care so little they’re trying to get an amendment passed… wait.
“It is imperative that we provide President Trump with every resource necessary to correct the disastrous course set by the Biden administration,” Ogles said in a statement
so Biden created a bad situation for him in 4 years, yet he thinks Trump needs 8 years to undo it. Sounds like a skill issue to me.
In order for it to pass, they need 290 votes in the House. The Republicans currently have 220 votes, so they would need 70 Democrats to flip.
Then it goes to the Senate where they need 67 votes. First, 60 to get past the inevitable filibuster, and with 53 votes, Republicans need 7 Democrats to flip to move it forward and 14 to pass it.
Then, the fun part, they need 38 states to ratify it. Trump did win 31 states, so he would still need 7 Harris states to ratify an amendment.
What a frivolous waste of congressional speaking time. I thought these guys had real problems to solve? I thought Trump was gonna fix it all this time around? You’re telling me not even 1 week into his new term and he’s already thinking about how the job won’t be done in time?
Conservatives are pathetic.
If this fails, you can expect them to redefine what a “term” means. And if that fails they can simply cancel elections under “emergency” conditions and keep him in office for longer.
… and if that fails, they can just say “too bad” and do whatever they want anyway because who’s going to stop them?
And if everything they try fails then “see it wasn’t so bad”
I just want to point out that this is just one of the many many campaign promises he is trying to fulfill. Sure, it’s a big deal. But simply saying “conservatives are pathetic” is not only reactionary, it is wrong. Look at what is happening to immigrants. You might not see them as a problem, but conservatives do, and they are “solving” it.
Just saying, this shit is way scarier this time around. They’re fuckin’ moving.
That’s basically what I’ve been posting on Social Media anytime shit like this happens.
“How does this lower grocery prices?”
Ask whenever the Right or Center is listening, keep the message on “Trump is distracting you from what he isn’t doing, but should.”
Thank you for saying grocery instead of egg. So many people say eggs and it is going to age like milk when the bird flu recedes even though groceries will generally still be expensive otherwise.
On the other hand, better they do nothing than actuality successfully fucking everything up.
The worry is that perhaps Trump is smarter than he appears, and all he’s doing is showing his followers that he’s still all about setting up a autocratic government which they’ll get to be the muscle for, ready to do a violent takeover the moment elections stop working (just like last time, but this time better armed and better organised)
Trump, if anything, is much less smart than he appears. The guy managed to bankrupt a casino. That takes a special kind of stupid.
Imagine the Dems brought Obama back
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms…
Obama served 2 consecutive terms so would be ineligible. They literally wrote this so that only Trump would be eligible.
Even in their fantasies they’re scared of Obama.
The amount of seething could power the country in perpetuity
And there it is…
Didn’t even wait a whole week. Emporer Trump inbound
A constitutional amendment required 2/3s House and Senate AND 3/4 of states. And they don’t have that. This is more bullshit to distract.
To amend the U.S. Constitution, a proposed amendment must be approved by a two-thirds majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, and then ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures (38 out of 50 states). Alternatively, an amendment can be proposed by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures, but this method has never been used.
This is more bullshit to distract.
This is saying it louder for the people in the back. Musk’s Nazi Salute isn’t getting the message across? Okay, how about this?
They so desperatly want a hidden militia to come out of the woodwork and coup the country for them
Those people are either dead from covid, too old to fight for their coup, or are just LARPers and actually aren’t interested in dying for a con man.
well a shit ton were just released from jail after being paroled for j6
The ones Trump let out of prison were willing to do violence, including killing police officers. They’re a credible threat.
That’s not enough people, but we should definitely watch them
Ok. How many votes do they need to change the rule governing how many votes a constitutional amendment requires?
That would also be an amendment to the Constitution.
The last amendment that passed took over 200 years to get through the process.
True, but that’s mainly because they forgot about it.
Laws don’t apply to trump.
So if people commit crimes against Trump, he isn’t protected? No laws right?
Depends on the crime. One would think the Second Amendment might cover some crimes.
He’s protected by his sycophant, who have unlimited money.
They don’t apply to Biden either
Standard traitor shit.
So where them 2A folk at LOL
Probably confused as hell watching the democrats refusing to drop gun control as part of their platform after an attempted insurrection and police violence repeatedly happening with no justice system reform.
But the blue conservatives were never really about representing people. What else did I expect?
‘Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary’ - Karl Marx
Do they really expect their orange beanbag leader to still be alive in four years? And if he still is, to still be able to know his own name or speak coherently in public?
He only needs to stagger over the four-year line before dropping dead, and Republicans get to stay in charge for four more years.
For four more years, so far.
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Even if he survives, he’s on the mental decline, so he needs to be replaced with someone.
From the article:
Ogles’ resolution is tailored specifically to permit Trump to serve a third term, but not to allow three out of the four living former presidents to serve third terms.
It’s a Trump only privilege which, given the track record, could have been assumed, unfortunately.
Trump is not exactly a spring chicken. He is one mild medical event to being in the history book.
COVID nearly killed him and RFK is antivax sycophant. I’m not a betting man but…
Great, than we end up with Vance aka the young, healthy, couch-fucking, monarchist who lacks Trump’s compulsive need for worship.
Vance used to be the face of Never Trump, which makes his actual motives a mystery. The best possibility would rely on him pulling a long con, but so would the worst possibility.
FTA" “Trump “has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation’s decay and restoring America to greatness, and he must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal,”” - He hasn’t don’t anything yet!! How has he ‘proven himself’
