• KnitWit@lemmy.world
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    There’s a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

    She should not be able to walk down the street without constant reminder of making this statement about victims of sex trafficking. Absolute monster of a person.

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      There’s a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

      “There really is, one is annoying and one is hot”. -Trump, probably

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      I want every single, sheltered Lemmy progressive to use this opportunity to SPAM every message board, every subreddit, every facebook group, with this clip, this story, Megan Kelly’s warp-distorted face rationalizing the abuse of children.

      THIS is the shit we need to be doing and putting all our energy into instead of infighting about what words are problematic.

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        I agree with the sentiment, but you lost me at using corporate social media. Eww.

        Can we shove these clips in MAGA CHUDs’ faces IRL instead, please?

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          using corporate social media

          If you can reach enough people, do what you will, but it’s ridiculous to be performative about it, millions of conservatives use social media, they trust social media, social media is what got trump fucking elected to begin with.

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        It is a useful distinction when considering possible rehabilitation. In general conversation it’s just weird.

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        The best explanation I have seen was that it’s like death metal sure there’s varying types and styles within death metal but at the end of the day the only ones who really care about those distinctions are death metal fans.

        (My apology to any death metal fan offended by the comparison)

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          I don’t think a 20 year old dating a 17 year old falls into that category but it would fall under the legal definition you’re referring to in many states. That’s the problem with drawing arbitrary lines, you usually end up labeling some things incorrectly. That doesn’t mean you get rid of the line but understanding the context is still important.

          That being said, there is no amount of context that will lessen the creepiness of a 50+ year old man serially preying upon 15 year old girls. That’s disgusting and I find Megyn Kelly’s invocation of this defense to be indefensible. She should be ashamed of herself if she were capable of feeling shame.

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            Yeah of course a 20 year old dating a 17 year old is fine…we all know this isn’t what they are talking about…it’s disgusting people trying to justify someone old enough to be their parent or grandparent…

            Maryland has a system in place to protect teenagers…the age of consent is 16 (which if you’re over 21, shame on you) but there’s a 4 year sliding clause, so for example if your 17, a pissed parent cannot charge you for having relations with their 14 year old, if all was on the up and up.

            I’m in my 40s and anyone under 30 is too young.

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    It is so predictable that conservatives would end up in “Pedophilia isn’t that bad” once it became undeniable that Great Leader raped little girls.

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      funny that QAnon stuff circled around Dems having pedo-leanings and that was an OUTRAGE yet now it turns out to be OK, Humane even… wtf? Their morals exist only to stick it to anyone opposing them and they evaporate the second one of their own is caught doing exact thing

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        Q-anon was never about children.

        It was always about the fantasy headline: “Uneducated Everyman Uncovers Massive, World-Altering Secrets and Becomes Huge Hero by Decoding Publicly Published Materials for Unique Connections and Number Puzzles”

        They are entirely damaged or dumb or religiously brainwashed people who are so deeply insecure about their lack of factual understanding of the world, that Q-anon became their “gateway” to some kind of real way to impact the world and be recognized for something good.

        When a family member of mine fell down this pitcher-plant of mental illness and delusion, I went deep and hard into learning everything I could about the movement and conspiracy culture. Sadly my family member could not be pulled out and was at one point arrested for trying to… abduct girls. Seriously. He rationalized that he was trying to “save” them.

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          I read somewhere that people like conspiracy theories because it gives them a sense that they know secret information that others don’t know.

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            I wish I could say my family member was my only exposure to conspiracy derangement, but I’ve know a handful of them.

            And it’s ABSOLUTELY what you said. These are people who don’t understand things. They don’t have a grasp of scale of things, they don’t know math and numbers and don’t get how populations work and how systems work, from city infrastructure to political institutions. They get severely insecure or anxious when something comes up that makes them feel that insecurity… like almost any news story or political scandal.

            So they write their own story using magic and mysticism and ideas they pulled from grifters online basically telling children’s stories and fairy tales about flat worlds and goblins who steal children.

            Having a “secret” story makes them feel knowledgeable, like they have something they can teach others, a way to be relevant and respected. Even if it’s just by other delusional people.

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              Yep, this pretty much nails it.

              The conspiracy makes them feel a sense of importance that they can’t get in any other aspects of their lives. It is sad, these people cause real harm to those around them with these fantasy worlds they buy into.

              Telling them they are wrong, often just feeds the delusion; because you don’t know the secrete, this makes them feel more of the same, feeding the conspiracy further.

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              There is also a kind of reverse virtue signaling to each other about how “edgy” they are when it comes to being steeped in/buying into what they think is insider knowledge…

              For example, the ones that claim they are flat-earthers - I honestly think many of them might not really believe it, but use it as a way to play the kid skipping science class and smoking out behind the school, basically as a way to raise up their middle finger to annoy the people they think are just being schoolmarms: “you’re not going to tell ME what to believe, I did my own research!”

              The reality is, anyone they think of as a schoolmarm (“normie”) just mostly would rather ignore these asshats, and just roll our eyes at their juvenile and backward ways. Sadly, what these idiots do in large groups ends up harming everyone - e.g., not vaccinating, being terrible at reasoning skills, basic numeracy and literacy, while at the same time being able to vote for the Republicans.

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                There is much of what you describe in these communities, and a lot of it is even simpler and sadder than that, which is people desperately scared of death and clinging to religion to provide some level of comfort.

                One of my favorite documentaries of all time is Dan Olsen’s In Search of a Flat Earth, it’s a sublime journey that starts with a beautiful and pleasant journey into measuring the humbling scope and scale of our world, and in the second act, delves deep into conspiracy theorists and their motivations.

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      But they’re still probably gonna push to prosecute lgbtq people as pedophiles. They should at least have to pretend to be consistent.

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    He’s not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he’s just sparkling child molester.

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    What are they even defending here. Even if they were 18 year old trafficked women it would be heinous.

    It’s not like he was dating young girls or some shit, this is about sex crimes of which their age is only one of the awful awful factors.

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    hand gestures, trump voice It’s called ephuba… epheeba… ephebiolphilia, folks, look it up. These girls. Women. Beautiful women, because you know, I’m only attracted to beautiful. I ran the miss USA pagent for years, you know that? I’m very proud of it. They call me up sometimes and say, “Mr. Trump, the evil, socialist communist left says beauty pagents are wrong and we have to give awards to ugly ladies with nose rings. Please come back”. I have to tell them I’m just too busy saving America. But these women aren’t kids. They’re smart, intelligent ladies. The left hates beautiful women. They say “Donald is robbing the cradle he’s a pedophile”. That’s fake news. Fake. News. Children don’t have… well you know just look at these girls. They’re very well-endowed, these ladies and I won’t bow down to the evil communists. They’re the pedophiles folks. Why doesn’t anyone look into sleepy Joe sniffing all those girls’ hair - it’s creepy. But I’m attracted to beautiful. All the most beautiful things… you’ve seen my new bathroom, right? It’s the greatest bathroom in the history of indoor plumbing… Kim told me that on the phone yesterday. He said he could see it through the window in pictures.

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      This was great but at “beautiful women” he would have had a brain fart and started talking about Sydney Sweeney and how the left hates her for being beautiful. “The left hates lots of beautiful women because beautiful women all love me. They all love my big beautiful bills…” et al.

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    If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I’m going to think of you as a pedophile.

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    She has a 14 year old daughter

    If you tell someone not to fuck kids and their response is “actually 15 year olds aren’t kids” then that person is a pedo.

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    Fuuuuuuuuuck

    “This is this person’s view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls,” she continued. “I’m just giving you facts that he wasn’t into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby.”

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    Oh, they’re going the “explaining the difference between a pedophile, a hebephile, and a ephebophile” route. Let’s see if it works out for them.

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    I wonder if I’m even capable of being so dedicated to someone that I’d become such a gross fucking weirdo to defend them.