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    “The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”

    Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.

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          allegedly he asked epstein for a 13 year old that looked like his daughter.

          https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

          And heres a lives of the rich and famous type show where ivanka shows us her childhood bedroom. Watch her face after she shows her bed, right near the end. She looks like she’s about to fall apart.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsxHBS89Lw

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            Based on his comments and Katie Johnson’s testimony, I don’t believe he ever had sex with Ivanka, though he very obviously wanted to. I can imagine based on her reaction in that video that he assaulted her in some way, though, like groping.

            “Aides said [Donald Trump] talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,” Taylor wrote, recalling an alleged exchange with Kelly, who served as Trump’s chief of staff between 2017 and 2019.

            “Afterward, Kelly retold that story to me in visible disgust. Trump, he said, was ‘a very, very evil man.’” source

            Trump assaulted Jill Harth repeatedly in the early 1990s. On one occasion he pulled her into Ivanka’s empty room in Mar-a-Lago to try to have sex with her on Ivanka’s bed. source

            Ugh. He’s such a monster.

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    It has begun. Trump unleashing the army against the population fighting against his gestapo.

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    I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

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      These things are always so annoying and uncritical. They are not wrong that the democrats are a conservative party, but that is still where the current progressive movement lives.

      I think there is a bit of a trap in seeing the maga rise as a monolith, but I think there are two main wings. The evangelical side and the libertarian side. They might have some overlap, but their motivations and goals are still rather distinct. The important take away for this short essay of sorts is that they have agreed on enough points to move the overton window to get large parts of what they want. For the evangelicals it is abortion bans and ten commandments in schools. In the libertarian wing it is DOGE (inspired by the libertarian president in argentina)

      Tankies and others who say “Biden was no better than Trump” are really messing up our ability to have a leftist/progressive party. In either growing it with-in the dems or starting from scratch. I want to understand what they are saying, but it is frustrating how unserious they are in actually achieving goals.

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      How about “America has always been a shit show, and Trump is the parody version”?

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        trump isn’t the parody version… he is the logical, and inevitable end point. he is the perfect avatar and representation of what america is, what it stands for, and what it has ALWAYS stood for! trump is the perfect president because he so perfectly encapsulates every single american value: he is lazy, fat, stupid, corrupt, proudly ignorant and scared of anything he doesnt understand.

        how do you look at 250 years of american history and not see that he represents exactly what made america ‘great’? genocide, slavery, segregation and jim crow laws…

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        They accomplished saying the people that helped get us here with idiotic false rhetoric can go fuck themselves. I’ll add preferably with something sharp.

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    Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

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      The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that’s not going to solve this. It’s just going to start a true resistance.

      There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

      As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that’s when they kill them.

      All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

      The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

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        I hope I’m not giving too much credit for a strategy, npbut it might just be an attempt to provoke a reaction. Either California backs down or they resist and there’s an excuse to take over. Look for a bunch of masked thugs to try to arrest Newsom for “treason”

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          Only useful if you know when and where someone will be. Obviously heightens surveillance capabilities, but they can’t be everywhere at once

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            I’m pretty sure they were throwing drones in on the side of the people, not the government.

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            You should look at the fields in Ukraine strewn with the fiber optic cables of 100’s of kamikaze drones.

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              I mean yeah the US military always has the option to raze entire cities to sniff out a resistance. I doubt that will be done

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                I don’t think the threat is coming from the military in this case, it’s coming from MAGA.

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        https://youtu.be/SiFGr51ubV4

        This has been going on so long that there’s an 80’s Cheech and Chong parody song about it.

        The 1992 riots started in South Central, which is historically African American. East L.A. is sort of the hub of Hispanic “immigrants.” (immigrants in quotes there because America swiped that land after the Mexican-American war; lots of Hispanic Americans didn’t cross the border but had the border cross them).

        I don’t live there. I’m just an enthusiastic idiot. I love Los Angeles. So, I can’t do its history justice. Hopefully, someone else can. I have friends there and I go there a fair bit but it’s not my hometown so I don’t want to misrepresent L.A. (I live in New Orleans so L.A. and LA—the postal code for Louisiana—get mixed up a lot. So, I use L.A. for the city. No one else does.)

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        The Irish resistance is the closest analogue to what that kind of armed resistance would look like.

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    These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

    It’s not a fucking immigration protest. They didn’t deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

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    This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight… except it’s not even a knife fight it’s a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump’s only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

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      This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we’ll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi’s trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.

      By next summer it will get really ugly, and he’ll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.

      Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.

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        more immigration crimes

        You really mean, more trumped up, fabricated, magnified and fake news, immigration crimes.

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          The reason they will wait until next summer is because of the timing. If they declare Martial Law now, and suspend elections (the real objective), they have more than a year to fight about it, and get the courts and the SCOTUS to rule on it, with plenty of time to deal with the aftermath.

          But if they just spend the next year escalating it into chaos, then declare Martial Law next Fall, and suspend elections, it will be too late for the courts to do anything about it before Election Day passes, and once it passes, it’s over.

          They could impose Martial Law now, and just not suspend elections until next Fall, but they need the people to get really fired up first, so they will feel more justified in suspending the election. Martial Law now would only suppress the attendance at protests, and right now the MAGA Nazis want them as big and violent as possible.

          This summer they light the fuse. The bomb goes off next summer.

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              Right, this is where they’re starting, so imagine where we’ll be by next summer, in the midst of one of the most important elections in American history.

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    I’m not actually surprised that the second american civil war starts in California. Cali always seemed like the most progressive state.

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    2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn’t want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

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    Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

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    Repeat after me: A government that is bluntly sending weapon to bomb kids have no concern of it is own citizen.

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

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      There would probably be no consequences for him, but the “martial law” would probably be ignored and not happen.

      As I understand it, in the US, martial law can only legally happen if the courts are unable to function. Basically, if things are so bad courts are unable to judge people, you let the military judge them.

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        The law hasn’t mattered so far. It is illegal for him to deploy the National Guard without the governor’s consent, which was not given. Not only was it now given, but Trump went out of his way to denounce the governor while illegally deploying the National Guard.

        The US is no longer operating within the constitution, it is operating under the appearance of one, an appearance that falls apart the closer you look at it.

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          What you say and what I say don’t contradict. ICE is already acting as if martial law was declared, ignoring due process/habeas corpus. If Trump declared martial law, those that still follow laws, constitution and the courts would keep doing so and those that follow Trumps orders above all would also keep doing so. There would be no substantial change.

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    Oh no worries. Trump is such a fan of insurrections he hands out pardons by the thousands for them - every single pardon personally signed by him, and totally not by autopen, I’m sure.

    Seriously, though. Can’t wait for him to cry victim and pull a surprised pikachu when all this pushback to his antagonization makes it to the steps of the White House. Hope he keeps the surprised face until the bitter end, and that end can’t come soon enough.