Like, if its collapsed, do I file? Do I even have to?

I am most certainly going to pay my state tax, but then what? What about stuff like my social security funds?

(I am asking for others because we’re at that point now I suppose)

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    Always file. If the IRS collapses you paperwork means nothing. If it survives a collapse, having not filled will bite you in the ass.

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    IRS has plans listed for an apocalyptic event (basically they need to continue tax collection within 48 hours), but they do work for the government. Without the government; you wouldn’t need to pay taxes; but it would be the least of your concerns.

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    Do people really think the US state and its monopoly on violence is going to collapse in the foreseeable future?

    The US has been run by oligarchs since its formation as a bourgeois state after its bourgeois revolution (previously). That this is more nakedly obvious this week than last doesn’t really change that fact.

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      Actually yes, there are more oligarchs than the idiots in charge right now, and it’s going to come to a head at some point. Each one has their feifdom and they won’t go quietly.

      More to the point, it’s going to reach the point of mass protest again, and moron is going to call in the military. After which everything is on the table. No one in power will be safe in anything but armored transport and guarded villages, which won’t last long. At that point the US and it’s global hegemony will be broken. There won’t be the resources to project military power beyond our borders and a few subject states, because it will cost so much to keep security at home, and productivity will tank hard.

      No one can beat the US military except the US itself, and it’s being forced to do just that.

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        The US military is shrinking and getting more inept every year with lowered physical and aptitude standards. So at least there’s that.

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    You will end up paying the share of taxes to your state government that you currently do to the federal government. If the federal government collapses, all 50 states are now de facto independent. Those states can now start forming a new country or new collection of countries as they will.

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    if you think it’s all likely to fall apart soon, file asap if you’re expecting to get money back, but put it off as long as possible if you’re gonna have to pay them more. if the government is going down, might as well get your piece of it while you can.

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    They will weaponize the IRS against poor people and ignore the people committing big time tax fraud. Do with that information what you will.

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    Why bother? Money that’s sent will go to their defense efforts against our revolutionaries so if you’re on their side feel free. If not keep it and buy your own ammo for protection from invasion

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    You could do the formality just in case it doesn’t. I suppose you could skip paying anything you owe if they do end up collapsing.

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    Fellas don’t start getting stupid with your money because you’re scared. You can’t help others if you don’t help yourself first. Most likely the federal government will still be collecting taxes and you will still be fucked later

    It’s a fine idea for a protest action however. Make a thing , get hundreds of people behind you before Going down this path. Even then probably A risky idea.