“What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever.”
I’d vote for John Stewart if I was American. Look up how he supported the 911 firemen. He is the right mix of popular to be a viable candidate and obviously principled enough to be a second Obama.
Something like 75% of American voters want universal health care, 90% of Democrat voters want it, and over 50% of Independents.
(these are approximations there are many polls pick your favorite)
Unfortunately, in the USA it’s “donations” that control legislation, cash is king. Our reps have two choices… do what Americans want (healthcare, higher wages and benefits, less bombs), or do what makes them and their entire family filthy rich.
It’s hard to resist the allure of money, they won’t give it up willingly. Landing leadership positions means millions of dollars a year, cushy political appointments (like your husband/wife landing an abassadorship to Bermuda), and other fantastic benefits, it’s blatant.
Whenever polls regarding universal healthcare are discussed, I always add that that if you want to gauge how popular universal healthcare is in the US, you need to subtract the over age 65 respondents (which leads to it polling even more favorably). Why? Because despite being the age demographic most opposed to universal healthcare, that is the one demographic that already has universal healthcare. And it’s not because they think Medicare is bad - on the contrary, Medicare is very popular among seniors. They love it. They just think they deserve universal healthcare while everyone else just wants to mooch off the system. So frankly I don’t care what they think about universal healthcare, actions speak louder than words.
There won’t be anymore meaningful elections in the US. Just pageantry.
Everything that we thought made our country different and agencies for “checks and balances” were just an illusion
It’s possible that the United States itself could collapse, and that democracy could exist in some form of whatever came after.
But in the United States as it exists now? It’s not even the same country.
Yep Americans thought they where special.
Man, AOC vs Trump 2024 would have been soooo epic.
Even if she lost, still better to put a good foot forward than what they ended up doing
I’m not an american, but from my perspective you only had two decent candidates in the last election on the Democrat side: Gavin and AOC. Not sure how Gavin stands now, but AOC seems great. Kamala was a disaster then, will be a disaster again.
If you didn’t, watch her (AOC) speak at Munich security conference. She is a great speaker: smart, eloquent and logical. I don’t see her as direct as Carney, she is more careful with words. But I wouldn’t want to be in her position if she wins: she will have sooo much crap to clean up after current disaster…
Carney is also an amazing speaker. I don’t know his internal politics and what it means for Canada, but foreign policy, communication and speeches give an impression of a decent leader. Very direct statements, no ambiguities or guessing. I was really surprised to hear a politician speak this way. European leaders are usually softer in their statements, leaving the doors open, especially when it comes to relations with the USA. Carney flat out said that the USA is unreliable.
Gavin Newsom is not honest about his positions.
he seemed as an decent candidate then…
I stopped following news about him when he had that Twitter episode with trump
two decent candidates in the last election on the Democrat side: Gavin
decent candidate
Gavin Newsom
things changed since then?
I don’t follow him that much since that Twitter circus with trump
While Carney did say those things he also still bows to the USA in some areas. His speech was tougher than his actions. Still, I think he’s the guy Canada needs at the moment. He seems like a larger picture thinker, and a ton of financial knowledge.
If there’s an election at all she will run as an independent, and get about 15% of the popular vote.
There will be an election, why wouldn’t there be?
They are making a BLOODY FORTUNE, no reason to stop the cash train now
I believe the point is that the Tangerine Toddler has repeatedly said that he wants to stop elections and remain in power indefinitely
I already have an AOC 2028 shirt my maga fil got it for me, I’m not quite sure he expected me to like it as much as I do.
she didn’t answer the question at all
I’d vote for her. I’d also vote for Bernie again, if he ran again. I don’t care about his age, all that would matter is he got into office, and established a cabinet, and had a good Vice President to take over.
Bernie is 84 years old.
I am a huge fan of Bernie. Have been for over a decade. He is too old to be the president.
That’s the same thing everybody said last time and Bernie is in better physical, mental, and psychological condition than Trump.
He’s also incredibly sharp for 84…but he’s 84…
He’ll be 86 at the next election.
As president you get way more stress, more travel, less sleep. He wouldn’t do well in the president’s office.
Of course, and because of that he would never win an election, because people won’t vote for him because “he’s too old”. Like I said, I don’t care about his age, or that he would likely die in office, perhaps even in the first year. I’d still vote for him, because I agree with him, and I want his ideas in that office. That’s why he’d need a good V.P. I don’t understand why anyone would care how old he is, as long as they agree with him. Is it because he would probably die in office? Why does that matter?
I don’t care about Trump’s age per se, I do care that he’s got dementia. Bernie doesn’t have dementia.
Anyway, it’s a pipe dream, and I’ll happily vote for one of his protégés, too.
Bernie for president and AOC for vice president? That’d be something.
IF he died in office, the position likely would be taken good care of
What if we had a candidate that is not on his 80s, maybe?
This “Bernie” mentality elected Trump twice already.
More importantly, he’s too old, and not aggressive enough, to win. We need someone that knows how to build and run a political machine, that can seize control of the party and purge the old guard. A true populist that can play a crowd. Bernie unfortunately lacks the killer instinct to overcome the establishment.
I’d door-knock for her.
Sheesh, and I haven’t canvased for a candidate in almost 20 years.
I canvassed for Bernie. It was a good experience. And he won the state.
I phone banked for her in her 2018 campaign.
She has work to do, because if she ran right now, she’d get eaten alive.
Notice that AOC doesn’t do very many hard interviews, and that when she gets a question asked of her that she isn’t prepared for, she stumbles.
AOC has been basically absent from leftwing media while plenty of other very solid progressives are out there putting in reps doing hard interviews in combative environments. AOC doesn’t do that and is only does very controlled media opportunities. That’s not good for someone who wants to be president. I don’t think she’s done the time like others have to be able to weather a primary.
UAW Boss Sean Fein would be a good candidate.
Well they need to get out and start doing media now. Regardless, a successful candidate is going to have to out in hundreds of hours in front of cameras and developing a level of comfort and ease of answering questions that only comes with practice and putting in the hours. It’s also one of my biggest critiques of AOC. She also hasn’t/isn’t putting in the reps in terms of media cycles. When they do, it’s very controlled and brief.
You are a fascist.
Explain how.
Explaim how you complain to management to get your critiics cancelled? You gave your hand away.
What did you get banned for being a gif hating loser in the other thread? I would never report you for being that kind of a loser; it’s far more fun to just mock you relentlessly when you have a psychological moment like that. Which was truly fun and brightened my day, so I do want to say thanks and I appreciate your participation. It was probably some one who agreed with me on how silly you were being that reported you. I would never do that, it’s far more entertaining to have you staying in the game.
For your participation yesterday, I sincerely appreciate it:
Now, into the comment at hand…
You can be and should be a critic of me but you should also have the charity to take my arguments on their face. I think AOC is mid among current progressives and I’ve outlined why several times in this thread. I can reiterate those points if you like and we can take it from there.
This headline makes me want to kick someone’s trashcan.
That’s my girl.
I 100% get not committing to run right now, it would be stupid to do so.
“In this op-ed that Bezos paid for in The Washington Post, there was a veiled threat — it was the elite saying if you want this job, you just stepped out of line,” said Ocasio-Cortez. “What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever.”
But I sure as fuck hope she realizes becoming president is our best shot at that.
Shed drive down ballot races like Obama did, but isn’t as cocky and obsessed with personal power to ignore the DNC after winning like Obama did. Shed name a progressive chair.
Bringing in a wave of progressives and putting the party firmly on the progressive side of the divide is absolutely the biggest thing she (or anyone) can do to get us single payer healthcare.
So like I said, hopefully she’s planning to run, just smart enough to not say it yet.
So like I said, hopefully she’s planning to run, just smart enough to not say it yet.
Being a Representative, she’s got an entire other election to win between now and the next Presidential election anyway.
Announcing that she plans to go for President (and would therefore be leaving the House) might attract primary challengers.
She is right it’s not the title important and right now Dems needs someone that would unify the party. Trump won not because he had much more votes than 2020, but because Harris had 6 million votes less than 2020
I am already seeing a lot of Dems saying again they will not vote by X or Y… MAGA is voting doesn’t matter what
So the party will need someone that unifies more the party… but it seems unlikely
Sister, keep talking like that and you might just earn yourself my vote!
Thanks, Raw Story, for the textbook clickbait. What a shit outlet.
It really is shitty clickbait, try going to the site without ublockorigin, just with adblock, there are moving advertisements all over, a deal breaker for me, and the article is like two sentences, last I checked. I usually skip any post with them as a source, didn’t realize it this time.
