No I’m gonna go on fucking election day, when normal fucking people actually do things because they’re normal fucking people and see how fucking long the line is. If it’s a 3 hour wait, then you fuckin delete your account.

Its fucking irrelevant that people can vote earlier because they don’t. They wait till the last minute and the system doesn’t have capacity to handle in person voting.

Actual people are imperfect. They don’t plan ahead. They’re busy. Reality is imthat they wait. And can you fucking blame them when your, allegedly, office pulls shit like they did with waters and ozawa in the fourth?

I talked to easily 2000+ voters canvassing for this primary. It is hard enough to get them to fucking fill out the fucking ballot that got mailed to their house. Introduce even a bit of additional friction and voting participation plummets.

God you are fucking dense. This isn’t about what one fucking voter does. Its about what voters do.

Stop discouraging people from voting by mail in Hawaii, and if you actually knew what the fuck you were talking about, you would know the damage that you are doing. I don’t fucking believe you in the fucking slightest on your claim you work for the fucking county.

You need to shut the fuck up about shit you don’t know about fucking haoli. You don’t know fucking shit about how shit works here. You think bruddah in Makaha gonna go stand at Kapolei Hale three fucking hours to fucking vote? You telling westsider they get show up one kine in person, you telling westsider not vote.

Stop fuckign spreading misinformation.

In 2024 maybe 10,000 people voted in person at Honolulu Hale. People waited in line almost 3 hours to cast their votes. Only 10,000 votes out of 300k. And it was a headline making mess. We don’t have the infrastructure for in person voting, because that’s not how voting is set up to work here. Why are you lying to people about this?

Its practically and physically impossible, and deeply irresponsible to tell people to not vote the way our election system is set up to work. We vote by mail in Honolulu. Use the system as intended. Put your ballot in the mail.

And what fraction of this primaries results came in via drop box versus via mail in?

You aren’t the only one who has worked elections and you truly do not know what the fuck you are talking about. You don’t. You have that fucking haoli arrogance where you think you know shit about something you have no fuckiing experience with.

We vote by mail in Hawaii. There are drop boxes as backups but they aren’t the primary way people should be voting. They need to put their ballots in the mail. Its hard enough to get them to do that.

Even even a somewhat significant fraction of people had to use the drop boxes, it would be a complete fucking disaster. We’re not built for it, and unless you are in the county clerks office, shut the fuck up because you don’t live here and you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

You truly have not one fucking iota of a clue about what the fuck you are talking about.

If people don’t mail in their ballots here, they simply won’t vote. We’re not built to do in person voting or even significant ballot drop off. You truly need to stfu about shit you don’t understand and stop spreading misinformation.

You’re free to live in a world of hypotheticals purely of your own creation, but don’t be surprised when reality comes to slap you I. The face because your so obscenely obnoxiously self obsessed in your considerations.

In reality, real people, not hypothetical people, are not going to make a huge effort to vote if it’s made to be too difficult. What actually happens is that even modest barriers being present, people just don’t bother.

Its quite hilarious how idiots take examples of what happens with real voters and real voter behavior, and then project it to mean being how the person individually behaves. Its a degree of stupidity you can only find on spaces like this.

There simply isn’t the capacity. As a state we use mail in voting. States don’t all vote in the same manner.

That’s just not how elections work bruh. Its litterally logistically impossible to do that in sooooooooo many areas.

In Honolulu county, a county if a million people (practically) there are like _maybe_12 places to drop off your ballot. We do our election 💯 by mail and those drop off locations are just a back up. And it requires you sitting inkne for hours.

If you want to vote in person. Puh. Bruddah. Only get two place where can. Kapolei Hale and Honolulu Hale. And you gonna be in line for hours.

Are you like, actually intellectually disabled?

Because I’ll be nicer if you are. At least then your idiocy would make sense.

I’m not making any claims about Tuckers relationship with anyone shit for brains. Use your fucking eye balls and rub them on the screen. Use them to take the lights emitted by the screen and convert them to letters and then words in your mind.

Stop arguing with your imagination of what I’m saying.

I’ve not offered an iota of conjecture about Tuckers role with Russia you oblivious illterate. Develop some reading comprehension.

You don’t have the mental faculties to comprehend that understanding someone, their motivations, the strategy doesn’t mean you agree with them.

That makes you illiterate to understanding what it takes to oppose people like Tucker. You are so baby brained you can’t understand words or what they mean. Its something we excuse children for but not full grown adults.

You have obligation to understand those you disagree with, because you can’t offer a resistance to them if you don’t understand them or how they operate. And this pervasive baby brained thinking on the part of liberals is half of why were in this mess. Your all so used to just being consumers, to having everything chewed up and spit into your brain by Rachel Maddow or Ezra Klein, your actual critical thinking skills are anemic.

you’re implying

I’m implying that you are a toddler brained Liberal who’s analysis is narrowly focused in a kind of maladaptive reactionary analysis that can’t seem to get further than “Trump bad. Trump Russia. Peepee tape.”

I mean do you think you are actually convincing any one with these absurd accusations (other than maybe yourself, by shrinking and shrinking the circular nature of your own thinking).

You basically have a toddler level analysis of 2016, and are accusing anyone who has a mature thought as being an “obvious russian bot”. That only works on people who also are decrepit, toddler level thinkers.

So if you’ve gotten down this far into this thread, dear reader, I ask you to consider who you think @[email protected] 's rhetoric to operate on. Like, who is it that we think this user is trying to convince with their words? Its obviously not us. And if they aren’t arguing to convince us, who is it they are trying to operate on?

One could say that they are looking to split off “liberals” from the rest of the left with this kind of rhetoric. In this sense, they act as a “wrecker” to any kind of populist, leftist movement. Scratch a “russian bad” liberal, and how deep will we have to go to find a zionist apologist, a blue MAGA’t, someone promoting the least viable, most reprehensible instincts of the Democratic party?

It does beg the question doesn’t it?

Only fake lefties and the supremely politically uneducated are wringing their hands over this.

Yes yes yes. Every one who doesn’t agree with with you is a Russian op.

We shouldn’t try to understand our opponents or why their messages seem to resonate with audiences. No, we instead require “Trump bad” as the first test to ensure loyalty to the brand, then ensure the counter party is pure enough in their support for Israel and blue no matter who.

Surely simply demanding loyalty to a brand which has been objectively disloyal to its voters won’t, yet again blow up in Democrats faces.

enough of the right is hungry enough for an opinion that still validates their identity and positionality, I wouldn’t expect Tucker to go away any time soon. there is too much appetite for grift on the right. if Tucker went away, another would slip into that void to fill that gap. the real problem here is that Tucker is actually pretty good at what they do, and in-spite of several institutional attempts to cancel them, they’ve managed to survive.

They, unlike Trump in 2016, aren’t dependent on national media to bring them oxygen. A 2016 Trump could have been stopped if media would have just ignored them. Since that time, media has changed. This generation have their own media enterprise in a media landscape largely not beholden to any kind of outside interests. A self fullfilling windbag. Owens, Fuentes, Carlson, they don’t rely on outside financing and have a pretty fair degree of capture of their audiences.

AI sloppo.

And also “Democrats can never be failures, they can only be failed”.

This logic is how Trump (the previous Kremlin choice) was elected.

I agree. By refusing to, and failing to understand Trump, and why what Trump was doing was working (or to even acknowledge it was working), Liberals, and Democrats more broadly, set us up for this era of fascism we’re in. Its the fault of those who refused to understand their opponents that these easily beatable buffoons have become pillars of the modern political landscape.