I think this article forgets how Trump effectively surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban the last time around.
Also, calling Iraq a win is really stretching things.
Unless you consider how beneficial these wars were for the Israel first politicians and lobbies
Also Afghanistan. Also Vietnam.
Winning a battle is easy, winning an occupation is close to impossible.
Mission Accomplished, babyyyyyyyy!!!
Most people seem to have decided that one is on Biden for some reason, including Biden.
eh. might be 55% Biden 45% Trump, 50/50? 60/40? but really it hardly matters. These last two presidents had the legitimate authority and tools to see the right thing done regardless of zionist funding pressure and they both decided to actively do war crimes and take the bribes instead of doing whats right. Neither is worthy of any leadership position, and they should both be in prison in orange jumpsuits for crimes against humanity. This is what weak and unprincipled leaders get us. These two incompetent arrogant idiots may be the end of all of us.
Don’t mention any decency from Biden. It’ll ruin the narrative.
Don’t mention any decency from Biden. It’ll ruin the narrative.
You could just as easily say, “Don’t mention any decency from Hitler. It’ll ruin the narrative.”
Theres a reason people aren’t aware of a lot of the actually good things Hitler did. If you can figure out why those things arent mentioned these days, you will understand why people dont dwell on the good things Biden did.
Here is the stuff I’m talking about:
- Championed animal welfare causes.
- An anti-smoking crusader.
- An early champion of many environmental causes.
- A notable champion of the wisdom of infrastructure spending and infrastructure bills in general, just like Biden.
- An avid fan of the arts.
I will spot you a hint though: Biden/Hitler/ Trump all share a common problem, its one word, starts w a “G” and ends in “cide”.
He’s never been anything but a silver spoon total loser. He’s not even a skilled criminal. Fucking bush league in every measure.
He expected to lose the first election. He wanted to be able to use it as proof that the system was against him, to fire up the Fox News rubes and jumpstart his new TV network. He basically wanted to lose, and instead he won.
It’s amazing. He’s such a failure he failed at failing.
Donald Trump has spent his entire life falling up stairs.
Nah, even the bushes were better at this than him
Nixon had the decency to resign, Trump will drive us all 6ft under without any hesitation.
Nixon was not decent. The difference was that a Senator (Goldwater) told Nixon point blank that he was getting impeached and the senate had the votes to convict and remove.
Like most government officials “retirement” is getting fired.
They also didn’t have Faux “News”, hate radio, or the Internet back then, either.
What’s so fucked up is that POS of a FCC chairman just celebrated making it even worse than it already was for truth.
I genuinely think he’s by far the most likely president in this country’s history to launch ICBMs if he knows he is fucked. Which was a conclusion myself and any non-moron also came to in 2015.
a) This headline forgets W losing Afghanistan
b) Fuck Nixon, but Eisenhower deserves the blame for Vietnam (admittedly one of the reasons he did that was because he thought it would give him political cover to shut McCarthyism down, but still)
admittedly one of the reasons he did that was because he thought it would give him political cover to shut McCarthyism down
I want to learn more about that. Got a recommendation?
You yanks REALLY need to lose this one. Your noses need to be rubbed in it. You need to feel the SHIT you put the rest of us though. And you need to get seriously angry at the Israelis and rub THEIR noses in it. You need a big enough shock to CHANGE.
(Like I know most of the people on Lemmy are not Republican idiots. I’m obviously not talking about you personally, but about the «general public opinion» in the US, especially the Republican idiots.)
In America, we punish the incumbents. BoTh PaRtIeS have told their own constituents to fuck off; membership of registered voters is at 30% each. Independents are now 40% of voters.
Whoever wins the election tells the people who elected them to fuck off; so, we vote them out. That’s it. The new election winner then tells the people who elected them to fuck off, and so on.
Examples: Biden runs with minimum wage increase as platform, wins, then tells everybody to fuck off.
Trump then runs with “no war” as platform; wins, goes to war and tells his voters to fuck off.
He will be replaced by a Democrat, who will then also tell their voters to fuck off.
Repeat ad nauseam. Neither party does what they are elected to do and are then punished, to be replaced by the other party that will refuse to do what they were elected to do.
We can’t vote ourselves out of this, unfortunately.
He will be replaced by a Democrat, who will then also tell their voters to fuck off.
The real political innovation here is that the Democratic party is telling its voters to fuck off before the next election.
They don’t have anything to loose. Another Republican president? Great! They can sit on their asses for four more years writing angry tweets about how offended they are while telling voters to fuck off. Democrats win? Even better! Sit on their asses while insider trading and taking billionaire tributes while telling voters to fuck off. What a great system we have.
I agree with the incumbent part, but exactly how was Biden able to pass minimum wage law but decided not to? It can’t go in reconciliation and they didn’t have the votes for it in the Senate.
I’m sadly forced to work alongside some republican asshats, and let me tell you, they’re fucking ecstatic about how the usa military is kicking Iran’s ass. Reality has no bearing on them.
They don’t care. It’s a video game to most Americans. That’s what having oceans between you and the bombs does.
The US committed a war crime on day one, and Israel has been on a war crime spree since Oct 7… if this turns into a world war, it’ll be that Mitchell and Webb skit… “are we the baddies?”
…I’m not sure Europe would be better off if Iran was controlled by Russia, and I’m not sure if an independent Iran is a realistic option. At the end of the day, it seems like Europe needs the oil more than America does.
I sort of agree though. I haven’t heard a compelling argument as to why we are interfering in Europe’s problems. They have the strength of character to take on countries like Iran and Russia.
What? Pretty sure Afghanistan was lost too?? Or are we using strategic ambiguity in new ways?
The way I interpret this is single-handedly lost the war. Afghanistan was over 4 presidents (Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden). The sloppy withdrawal by Biden was die to no planning and a treaty signed by Trump to do so by 2/29/2020.
If that’s the case, then Nixon didn’t single handily lose the Vietnam War either.
But let’s be real. The Democrat president who inherits this war in 2028 will be the one blamed for loosing it.
The sloppy withdrawal by Biden was a treaty signed by Trump to do so by 2/29/2020.
The war was won, the person you handed the reigns to just ran away so fast when the enemy came it appeared like it was you being run out of the country.
No one wins when people start shooting at each other. There are only different degrees of losing. There is no glory in war, only suffering of the poor for the rich.
While somehow Biden get’s blamed for the fiasco, Trump did order the full withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, essentially a surrender to the Taliban, though he did keep their US bank account held treasury.
deleted by creator
Hows our “Project for a new American century” coming along? Seems it wasnt as easy as just writing down all the things we lusted after and grabbing them via pure hubris.
7 wars and a movie… just missing the movie.
I’m sure they’ll make a movie about how the war made them sad
yes, inevitably casting “principled” god-fearing maga people as the real victims in all of this, who are always calm and dignified, and never ever wanted any violence, but the outcome was forced on them… by muslim and woke democrat terrorists who were the real epstein pedophiles all along. We can have an AI write this movie in about 5 minutes. I bet Noah Wiley would agree to play Hegseth.
Maybe they needed the ratings for the final war/season to be higher for the movie.
Name one we have won since WWII?
Daily Kos still exists?
Yeah, they’re still sending out a newsletter and doing decent articles on their webpage but they’re low on fundraising.
um what? america has only won 2 wars against a guerrilla force of their own terf in the last 100 years.
Did AI write this article? It repeats itself a lot.
Piece is quite brutal against US. Worth read.
I wonder how much better would he fare had he assisted the protester, in time, like he promised, instead of letting them get massacred only to start his own thing a few months later.
