In a stunning admission, Leavitt told Bartiromo that mandatory conscription – not seen since the Vietnam War – had not been ruled out by her boss.

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    I’ve been worrying about this. They’ll use conscription to draft anyone anti-maga to fight and use other nations like Iran to do the fighting. If they resist they’ll be imprisoned.

    Russia does the same.

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    If there is conscription, they’re going to use their social media data from meta and twitter, and any way they can, to select those who are most vocal about being against Trump, so that they die first, maga are happy because they dont go to war, and see trump sticking it to the libs. Meanwhile there are fewer libs to vote against him and fight back.

    In fact, they’ll probably start by sending off those in swing districts, and may even let them vote abroad woth mail-in votes they intentionally dont deliver and cant be sued for doing so.

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        The russians do this. They wont be training you. They will wait with guns, give you a gun, and send you to kill or be killed, and if you dont, they shoot you. If you retreat, they shoot you. If you turn around and shoot back, they shoot you.

        They aren’t going to send you there to be effective. You will be meant to die. But this firing squad will reveal information about the enemy when it kills you.

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      I’m not entirely sure about that. They fill their army with anti trump folk and there’s gonna be a lot of fragging

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      to select those who are most vocal about being against Trump

      That’s not actually how it works right now. Maybe in the old days when conscription was done at the end of a sword or spear, but the military doesn’t want people who are potentially going to form groups to sabotage everything from within.

      If they wanted to kill every Trump critic they would send ICE to your house and you would disappear, but they don’t have the infrastructure and manpower that Germany did so even their deathsquad plans are anemic and half-assed, like everything they do.

      They are not going to do a draft because they’ll send in National Guard and reservists long before that, just like happened with Iraq, and thousands of middle-aged, midwest people who thought they were going to help sandbag against floods in their own communities end up getting their faces blown off in the mountains of Iran.

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        Rounding up all the Americans that trash talk them will cause revolution. Its also logistical nightmare. Conscription is something they can do, and nobody will know their selection process. The Russians used this tactic, and im sure trump would use it, if he needed a meat grinder. The US army doesnt work like the Russian one, but Trump is a dictator and everything will be becoming more like russia going forward.

        They’ll probably send all the “bad people” that ice has already picked up off the streets.

        They are building databases. They will not just allow you to defy them. You are speaking freely to me right now because their power hasn’t grown enough. But it will get there, since nothing is preventing it. All that is left to prevent it is the people and they are doing nothing.

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          If they draft near-revolutionary people they get access to military equipment and incleases likelihood of actual revolution. If you concentrate them then they can coalesce as a group. If you spread them out then a lot of units will be dragged down.

          Using ICE to round up dissenters avoids the risk of arming the would-be revolutionaries with credible military equipment.

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            You assume they will hand you working weapons, and not just hand you a stick.

            You assume they will train you in how to use military tactics, and not just point the real gun at you then order you to run at the enemy in that general direction over there, so they can see where the bullets are coming from.

            If you try to surrender to those at the other end, you’ll get shot in the back.

            If you somehow make it over alive, they’ll know the general area and bomb it anyway.

            We can’t assume they allow us any advantages, and need to plan for the worst.

            We can see Russia doing this already in Ukraine, using conscripts with little to no training.

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              Americans already have access to firearms.

              They will not train them.

              Yes, you will be shot if you surrender, or if you retreat. These conscripts will be meant to die.

              Maybe you intended to respond to someone else. Because I think we’re in agreement.

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    It’s a good thing they have all of our voting data and will be able to target conscription on those they don’t like, which is exactly why and how they would do this.

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      Oh, they’ll draft him. In fact, they’ll draft him, and he’ll rise up the ranks with record speed! All his assignments will be positions like “Army Special Liaison to Customs and Border Patrol.” Any role they can find that can puff up his resume while putting him in absolutely zero direct physical danger and requiring next to no actual skills or duties. He’ll do photoshoots in uniform. And Trump will solemnly say, “I’m sorry we have to bring back the draft. But I believe this is so necessary that I have drafted my own son into this conflict.” Or they’ll find a way to fabricate a story of military heroism around him.

      Be careful what you wish for. That’s what Baron being drafted would actually look like. The only way Barron would actually be drafted and treated as a common conscript would be if he miraculously developed a conscience and publicly denounced his father. That might get him drafted for real.

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      I think they should be the first to volunteer. They were the ones stupid enough to think it was the Democratic Party that was warlike (LOL) and voted for the pedophile used car salesman.

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    All of the people I work with regardless of age, gender, race, or bank account are fully wanting a draft to send “libs, LGBTQ, black, brown, etc” people to the front lines to die or war will somehow turn them straight.

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        I work in the mining industry I’ve worked here for 21 years now, I’m born and raised here most of them are from outa state I’m not leaving out of spite.

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      I’m not trying to pick a fight with you … but did you say anything? Like did you call em out and tell em they’re brain is being held down by stupid while being fucked by crazy?

      I’m not trying to say go cussing at them… but I see so many stories like this. “At my such and such they said such and such…” And then it’s like, what did y’all just let it go?

      Make noise. Call em out. Make them uncomfortable. I do it. You say stupid shit like that, then I’m gonna say stupid shit like “Well if this is a holy war, the Christians should go first. God might be mad if you send the gays.”

      I’m sorry if I’m coming off rude. It just we got to stand up for ourselves. Not just big protests, but even small spaces. It why I dislike the people on here that go. “Posting online doesn’t help blah blah.” YES the fuck it does. Letting them know in every aspect of their lives that someone somewhere out there won’t take their shit makes them mad. It ruins their lives.

      So call them out every where. Say something atleast.

      Again, I’m sorry, this isn’t all directed at you, my friend.

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        No I don’t say anything to them. When Covid was going on they were insane and I did try to correct them about it but that quickly escalated to the point where I was getting death threats and I had to be moved to another crew. Since then I just listen and observe them.

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          I mean, I guess I’m just cut from a different cloth. If someone threatened me with death, I would go ape shit. They only did to shut you up, and it sounds like they got what they wanted. Seriously, just cause they aren’t sending you death threats now doesn’t mean they don’t want you any less dead. So why keep quite? They’re crazy? Shit you are insane then.

          I’ve been threatened for my beliefs before, and I straight up told the dude I would gut him and shit in the wound. Of course they’re gonna act crazy, but they’re pussies. Think about it. They are threatened by gay folks. Some of the chillest folks. Trans folks make them break down. They’re weak. They use threats of violence to scare us, and we all go. “They’re crazy they threatened me with death.” Every day these fuckers are threatening you with death, just under their breathe. But the moment you start threatening them back, either they’ll go “it was just a joke.” Or “I didn’t mean it like that.” Or they’ll cower away.

          In my rant, I will say, be ready to fight. Even if you aren’t a fighter, always be aware of what weapons or items you have around. Remember, knees and faces are weak and no such thing as a fair fight. Pull hair. Bite. Jam a finger in an eye. Tyson their ear. Whatever it takes to win.

          I am really sorry you have to deal with it. I wish I could clone myself and send my crazy ass to these folks. I just can’t back down from it. Maybe it’s the way my mama raised me, but if you’re gonna threaten the communities I care about and the people I care about, we can spill blood. We can spill it in the gutters, in the streets, and on the rocks.

          Please do be safe, though.

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            I appreciate the concern, trust me I’m perfectly fine and safe I’ve been through a lot in my life. I was diagnosed with a severe mental illness when I was a teenager and have struggled with that most of my life. And in all honesty dealing with these asshats is a walk in the park compared to my darkest days as a teenager.

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      We should send Debbie’s fat ass from accounting. Fuck her, and the rest of her magat friends.

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        I’m with you 110% but it’s so bad here that everyone from the top down is like this. The mining industry is pretty bad.

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          Jesus, if I knew I could 100% get an abuse payout from being abused at work I’d wear a wire or invest in some camera glasses, get a lawyer & burn that place to the fucking ground. “Mine owner” sounds like they’d make for a nice fat pinata.

          I bet they don’t even give you the HR training that would inform you how exposed they are here.

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            Yep pretty much you hit the nail on the head. We don’t really get any training on HR issues. I remember a few years ago there was a female employee that complained she was getting sexually harassed. HR didn’t do anything. All they did was move her to a different department and the person who was doing the harassing got away with less than a slap on the wrist.

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              For one incident, that might be enough, but if you can show it’s a culture there, that the people at the top knew or participated, then it could get expensive.

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                Yes very true. The other issue is that being in a small rural town there is a lot of the good old boys you scratch my back I scratch yours happens a lot here not just at the job site, but in life in general here.

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      Yeah, I thought if anything, Vietnam tought the lesson that the draft is a terrible idea for overseas deployment.

      Of course, learning from history is not exactly the style of this administration.

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    They’d have to drag me out of bed, through training, and then keep me from killing this in charge the second I was armed. Good luck fascist cunts.

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    Conscription, you say? Nice, I’d be joining straight away if it weren’t for my…OUCH, my bone spurs. They are killing me today. Sooooooo much pain.

    Only Old Draft Dodging Donvict Drumpf knows how much pain I’m in right now…

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    Karoline Leavitt refusing to rule out a Draft,” Nilsson wrote Sunday in a social media post on X. “Once the Congressman’s and Ivy League parent’s children get drafted it’ll be a whole other ballgame.”

    Whoever this “Nilsson” is, we know they’re a moron. Because those kids are getting the best deferments money can buy.

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      Same here and I entered during the late 1980’s. In our ranks, we had plenty of Vietnam War NCO’s, with CIB’s, calmly explaining to us young cadets/officers what happened to the shitty leadership. Big reason why I do not to fuck with people and their lives when the shit is serious.

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      Oh they’re counting on it. You’re going to be shot as a traitorous agitator and domestic terrorist for resisting.

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    FIFA Peace Prize laureate former Cadet Bonespurs will maintain peace by bringing back the draft. I hope all the fighting age Z/A males have exactly the life they voted for.

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      Gen alpha? The oldest gen a just started high school. So yeah I hope those voting gen a kids really get what they deserve.

      I also have to speak on the matter of gen z. As an older gen z male (old enough that under current rules I can’t be drafted) I know the data holds that my demografic swung right in 2024. Not by as much as some act. But substantially enough to not ignore it. But I don’t know very many right wingers in my age group, so its hard to feel like something wasn’t missed. I would believe it if someone said that people my age were so far left that they refused to vote blue and that cost the election, but I can’t find any evidence of that.turnout was a bit lower generation wide, but not enough among men to make the argument that only the right wing men voted, unless there was a considerable surge among right wing youth turnout as well as a duo in turnout on the left for the same demographic.

      But now I’m rambling. Either way, its hard not to see millenials turning on us as a betrayal even if we statistically deserve it. Growing up and seeing all the articles where millenials ruined this or that and always being able to clearly see that the fault was not on the young adults but the society and industries, if there was even anything wrong with the change anyway. And I think everyone felt that way, not just those of us who were left leaning.

      And how I’ve had to drag some of the millenials I’ve known to see reason on trans issues and how they say the same things about me that people my parents age said about them it just really sinks in how cyclclical it all is and how no one tries to communicate on a level that actually breeds conversation. The brain sets as neroplasticity fades and now I am approximately who I will always be. And I hope I can look at gen alpha when they become adults and understand them, or at least try.