Summary

House Speaker Mike Johnson faces growing Republican dissent over his handling of government funding, potentially jeopardizing his reelection as speaker on January 3.

Allies are urging Donald Trump to reaffirm his support for Johnson to avoid a prolonged leadership fight, which could delay certification of Trump’s 2024 election victory on January 6.

Johnson’s bipartisan spending bill, criticized by Trump, narrowly averted a government shutdown but failed to include Trump’s core debt-limit demands.

Some Republicans warn that a speakerless House would disrupt critical legislative processes, including election certification.

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    I just cannot believe that this country is going to be run by the worst / stupidest people and all because a lot of stupid people think Biden sets the prices of groceries…

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      I keep telling people, it’s not the darkest timeline we ended up in, but the dumbest one. Reality is always much dumber than you’d expect.

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          I’ve already warned my family, if nukes start dropping in our area, I’m running towards the blast - I’m not hanging round to rebuild.

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            My whole family feels the same. There’s a military base about 20 minutes away. We’d probably be dead anyway because of how close we are, but we’re going to drive as close as possible just to make sure.

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      I just can’t believe that January 6th 2021 ended up meaning absolutely nothing. Zero! Unreal.

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        J6 proved you can go as far as outright insurrection against the federal government and (if you’re white nationalists) a wing of the government will protect you.

        It means quite a bit. If Trump takes office and starts signing pardons for all these guys, it means radicalizing a huge swath of the public. Go ahead and do some crimes. Do some terrorism. Kill some cops if you have to. Trump and his friends will have your back.

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      It does have precedent though. That’s how Reagan won in a landslide. Very similar circumstances - inflation, small military disaster, uninspiring president. Of course Reagan wasn’t as depraved and dumb as Trump so he won by a lot more.

      However inflation definitely has a history of short circuiting voters’ brains. Maybe it has something to do with how the media doesn’t really understand it and does a terrible job explaining it to people. I’d guess at most 5% of voters know that there are multiple inflation measures - some of which were already rising during Trump’s term - and that the typically-reported number is over the last 12 months, not right now (meaning the “record low inflation” at the end of Trump’s term included the whole start of the pandemic when there was deflation). Republicans are great at filling an information vacuum with their narrative, so they said it was Biden’s fault and people fell for that easy explanation.

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        Yup. Normal Americans are disenfranchised, while flyover country is given more influence. Combine that with dark money being allowed to outright bribe politicians and our democracy is pretty much a joke.

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    The GOP wants the election certification to become a murky uncertain process. Trump won the electoral college and will be the next president - that isn’t in doubt.

    However, if they make confirmation a confused process then in the next election they can subvert the process and steal it.

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      More like they created a legal theory that if you’re not certified on Jan 6, then there’s no process to handle the transition and so it’s all up in the air

      Then, they assumed every president would use this “loophole” if only they could

      Everything is projection with them

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    It would be hilarious if the Dems flipped 1 or 2 Republicans and took the majority leader spot for half a second.

    Trump would have a full on temper tantrum.

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    So if they fail to elect a speaker and can’t certify before the 20th, in theory Chuck Grassely as president pro tempore of the senate, would assume office at least until such time that the votes would be certified.

    That’s assuming they keep with tradition of electing the most senior member of the party in power to the position. In all likelyhood if this were even a remote possibility they’d put some trump loyalist in the position until trump was sworn in. Grassley may be a loyalist, I’m not entirely sure. And of course this is assuming the senate has their shit together. If they don’t, I think the current Secretary of State gets it.

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      If they don’t certify on time, it’s supposed to go to a contingent election, where the House votes for the President (with 1 vote per State delegation) and the Senate votes for VP. Presumably, the Senate would vote for Vance in short order. But if the House still can’t get it’s shit together, and there is no contingent election for President, what happens? Would Vance get directly inaugurated as President?

      I am convinced that this was the loophole that Trump was talking about to deny the Presidency to Harris if she won the election. It would be poetic justice if the GOP establishment uses it to screw Trump over.

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        Ah good point. In this case Vance could be elected as vice president in the senate, and the assume the office of president until the house gets its shit together

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          The House would only have until inauguration day to get it’s shit together, though. If they don’t elect someone by then, someone has to actually take office on that day. If no President has been certified, but a VP has, then the VP would.

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    This feels like such a microcosm of the Republican party: everyone gets elected on a wide array of misinformation, conspiracy, and empty populist rhetoric, but then fight over leadership because no one person can unify the diverse party they cobbled together to win the popular vote.

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    It’s a Kabuki show to give them an excuse to reject the election results and do something even worse.

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    Another article that does nothing but let Republicans live rent free in lefties heads