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    Religion is a belief. School curriculum is made based on facts and experiments over time. They should not be combined.

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      Religion is made up fairytales that adults still believe in.

      Honesty a guy praying to Jebus is no different than a guy shooting hadoukens from his wrists.

      Yet one is called spiritual while the other is called childish…

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    It’s funny that they clearly aren’t considering that religions other than theirs also exist. That’s the whole point of the Separation of Church and State. Your arbitrary religious views have no place in government or governance or public spaces… because others have other beliefs, many of which likely stand in stark contrast to yours, and the permutations are endless. Leaving your religious biases out of public life allows us all to coexist.

    But lets ignore that and see what happens. Looking forward to The Satanic Temple having a presence in all public schools. Maybe muslims can get the Five Pillars and Buddhists can get the Noble Truths… and we’re just getting started.

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      They’re not ignoring it, they’re fully aware, and it’s the whole point. They want an official state religion to suppress all others. They’ve been perfectly willing and able to blatantly ignore facts, evidence, and existing law and jurisprudence to benefit one religion over all others.

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    As a European watching the news, sometimes I have to remind myself that lots of other countries also go to shit from time to time, it just doesn’t get reported on as much. We get a massively disproportionate amount of reporting from the US as a result of how the English-speaking internet works.

    In fact even writing this I just noticed the sidebar’s description of the community I’m posting in, guess I should probably just block it (no offence).

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    How long do you think it will take for Trump to declare himself as the head of the US religion, the same way Henry VIII did for the Church of England?

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    If you didn’t vote Harris, you voted for this.

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      Actually no. Refusing to vote for a genocidal candidate, regardless of which side of the aisle or gender they are, is always a good choice. We are not free until we are all free. I demand my politicians not just be the lesser of two evils. I hope you can too. Cuz the drive to vote for a democratic candidate cuz they are not as evil is what got us here in the first place.

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      There have been no new Supreme Court nominees since the election, so even if Harris had won, it would not have changed this.

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        If you didn’t vote for Harris, you accepted that allowing genocide and converting Gaza into a Trump resort was preferable to voting for slightly less genocide. The genocide has only gotten worse because Harris lost. Clownshow ethics.

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        If you pull the lever, the trolley will run over people.

        If you don’t pull the lever, it will run them over faster because its itinerary includes running over everyone else on the planet BUT as everyone is run over, one after another, you can show them your hands. They will marvel at how clean they are and you will say it’s because you had the courage to not touch the lever. Your unwavering sense of justice will inspire them and they will die happy, knowing they once spoke to such a hero.

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            Independent. I still voted blue because they promised less genocide and I knew not doing so guaranteed as much of it as possible.

            But now that I see how clean your hands are compared to mine, I am ashamed. I mean, yes a lot more people are now dying as a result, but can you really put a price on cleanliness?

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            Well yeah, that’s exactly the idea. Choose the best of bad options, and try to improve things so that the next time there’s better options.

            Not choosing either usually leads to the worse option, which makes it harder to improve things.

            There are no easy options.

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              This is how making demands works. Hope the Democratic party learned that they will not get votes like this next time.

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                Unfortunately, over decades they’ve learned who are reliable voting blocks. Not participating communicates that one sees both options as functionally the same. So if anything, it encourages then to move to the right, which is a reliable voting block.

                I’m not at all gleeful about voting for them, and desperately want other options. I’m doing what I can to build parallel structures, engage in mutual aid, and in my day job I’m fighting climate change as an environmental research scientist. Unfortunately, we don’t live in the best of all possible worlds, and the tracks of the trolley don’t change overnight.

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        You bit hard into the propaganda campaign for this.

        You had two choices, bad or worse.

        You chose neither and allowed worse to win.

        Get down off your high horse, this does not make you morally superior, it makes you an idiot.

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          These people don’t realize (or well, maybe they do and are lying, I can’t read their minds) that asking people to not meaningfully participate in voting is like asking people to not participate in capitalism.

          The argument that there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism — something all leftists agree on and understand they still need to buy food, clothes, electronics etc. despite them being unethically sourced — is the same as the argument that there’s no ethical voting in FPTP (and capitalism). It’s literally the same argument, just centered on voting.

          So these people end up doing a kind of unironic “you say you’re a leftist yet you own an iPhone” but for voting — while probably typing all that from an iPhone.

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            When you can’t buy anything in the stores you will definitely care.

            When you’re starving to death in your own house you won’t be thinking about genocide anymore.

            Stop burying your head in the sand.

            Basically what you just said is it’s bad that democrats do genocide but when republicans do it then it’s fine.

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        Ah so you think you are innocent because you didn’t vote.

        No. That makes you complacent. You let Trump win by not voting which is the same as voting for Trump.

        People like you are why Trump is president.

        What a brain dead take. Not only do you STILL have genocide, you also have a president who is going to destroy this country. All because you couldn’t lift your lazy fat ass off the couch.

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        You and those who took your route are virtue signaling morons. But at least you can look down your nose at the rest of us while our democracy crumbles and our rights are stripped away.

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    He continued: “You can’t treat religious people and religious institutions and religious speech as second-class in the United States… And when you have a program that’s open to all comers except religion… that seems like rank discrimination against religion.”

    No, you stupid cunt. Religious institutions are special snowflakes that enjoy tax-exempt status and steal billions of dollars from this country by existing. Now you want to give them billions more on top of it. Fuck you Brett Kavanaugh you treasonous piece of shit.

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      It would be probably better than most of the other offerings in Oklahoma. Funnily enough, OKCPS had(has?) an illegal provision in its dress code that bans “satanic” imagery.

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    “You can’t treat religious people and religious institutions and religious speech as second-class in the United States”

    If you’re teaching spiritual things then you’re not a top-class program. Stick to facts.

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      This part is both mind blowing and hilarious. Not too long ago they were screeching that “they are trying to make everything sharia law!”

      Then they do this, with absolutely no sense of irony. The dumb runs so deep that its turning to magma.

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        The same idiots cheering this on would gaslight me and try to tell me there is “no such thing as xtian Shariah Law” when I’d point out that the talibangelicals very much want xtian Shariah Law here and have been pushing for it for as long as I’ve been alive.

        I know better. Just because (of course) they don’t call it Shariah Law doesn’t mean it isn’t the exact same fucking thing.

        The only reason they hate conservative Muslims so much is that game recognizes game, and let’s face it, if you change up a bit of doctrine, Muslim extremists want almost the exact same things as xtian extremists, and the xtianists have FATWA ENVY like you would not believe. They are very pissed off that more of their flock are not murderous thugs, too.

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    I wasnt going to have kids and the world keeps enforcing my decisions. If I had to deal with religion aimed at my kid I’d actually lose it 💀

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    How about we , the people, just don’t fucking do what they say. Trump’s an illegal president

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    Absolutely appalling. But I can always scream st my representatives louder. Though thats not working so guess what’s next?