• wanderwisley@lemm.ee
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    I said this before…when the fuck do we rise up? Or are we going to sit in the pot and boil?

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    It has started. It has been out of control for some time I can guess it will end badly for our American cousins and also the world.

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    First they came for the immigrants, But I said nothing, Because I’m not a filthy immigrant.

    Then they came for the protestors, But I said nothing, Because protesters are libtards.

    Then they came for the judges and politicians, But I said nothing, Because they are all corrupt and evil.

    Then they came for the minorities, But I said nothing, Because they deserve it!

    And then they came for me, Because I was a gullible tool.

    • A future MAGAT survivor.
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    Please remember: the ICE “arrests” are KIDNAPPINGS BY NON-UNIFORMED CIVILIANS. UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

    If you see a gang of 4 dudes with beards and guns and jeans and polo shirts … treat it like the kidnapping it is.

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      I get your sentiment and feel the same way, but that’s just adding death to the equation. I honestly think that is exactly what they want. If they detain you, you still have access to lawyers and others who are working to protect these people. If you’re dead, you can’t to any of that. You can’t defend yourself. The action alone will make you a ‘terrorist’ and therefore justify their actions.

      It fucking sucks.

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        If they detain you, you still have access to lawyers and others who are working to protect these people.

        Have you been skipping the news for weeks?

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          No. There are plenty of lawyers and groups (ACLU) working to get these people to a judge. Hell, even the Supreme Court ruled that the deportations must stop to give them due process.

          Are they following those orders? I don’t think so.

          But to say that there aren’t people fighting for these people is just flat out, blatantly and categorically wrong.

          How does Muhmud Khalil have a lawyer if what I said was wrong?

          Have you been skipping the news for weeks?

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            You seem to be choosing the few people who were able to get a lawyer in time… In your hypothetical, that is not guaranteed or even something I’d bet on. And you are also pointing out that they won’t obey judges orders anyways so… I’m very confused as to what argument you think you are making.

            Anyone who sees anyone being kidnapped should do their civic duty to stop it. Just because it suddenly seems to be government representatives that are doing the kidnapping now does not change that. You don’t know which it is.

            I do wonder how many people have already been disappeared with no cameras around and they are just “missing” according to their families who can’t/don’t want to go to the cops in case it was the cops all along.

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        access to lawyers

        I don’t believe it would work out that way if you are detained and don’t already have numbers lined up. They are already skipping due process anyway…

        I don’t want violence. I just want to remind people that these are illegal government kidnappings.

        It. Fucking. Sucks. Indeed.

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        An absurd suggestion. ICE agents looking to disappear you are merely volunteers for America’s new Necronaut Program. Necronauts are needed for the upcoming assassination of God, and invasion of heaven.

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    And thus, the Night of Long Knives begins.*

    Edit: The AP, as of 15 min ago has posted an update: “Dugan was taken into custody by the FBI on Friday morning on the courthouse grounds, according to U.S. Marshals Service spokesperson Brady McCarron. She appeared briefly in federal court in Milwaukee later Friday before being released from custody. Her next court appearance is May 15.”

    Thank goodness, she has been released- even if she is still going on trial for a trumped-up charge.

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      The problem with the MAGA/Nazi comparison is not that MAGA isn’t as evil, it’s that they’re less competent.

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        And why is that a problem? It sounds like a hindrance to them, which is a definite good thing.

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          Stupid is not the same as harmless. They routinely harm themselves gleefully. They can’t comprehend the full consequences of their own actions. That makes them dangerous.

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            I didn’t say they were harmless. I said their incompetence only helps their opposition.

            The Nazis were more competent and still lost. How would being less competent than that help them in any way?

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              They are causing generational damage to the country. Just because their incompetence doesn’t help them doesn’t mean it isn’t still hurting us. That’s the opposite of helping.

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                Again, I never said they weren’t causing harm. You’re conflating the concepts of aid and beneficence.

                Trump and his ilk being in power is not beneficial to the country, but their sheer stupidity in attempting to achieve their goals aids their opposition in stopping them.

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                  And you’re not understanding the type of harm idiots do as opposed to smart evil people. Take immigration. A smart evil person might revoke visas and deport illegal aliens for small things not previously done. They could do this while shielding themselves legally by working within the constraints of the law. The opposition would be powerless because they stay within the law. These ass clowns are deporting legal aliens to countries they have been explicitly protected from being sent to, detaining US born citizens, threatening to deport people to countries they have no connection to, and myriad other completely illegal and unconstitutional things. In a perfect world the opposition could hold them accountable in court. But the opposition is still trying to fight “fair” and twiddling their fucking thumbs.

                  So this abso-fucking-lutely is not a good scenario because they are stupid. Way more harm is being done and the opposition isn’t doing a fucking thing.

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        it’s that they’re less competent

        Not sure if that’s true actually, the Nazis were supremely incompetent as well. It just doesn’t take that much competence to smash a delicate balance like the separation of powers. You basically need control of one the three branches of government and you are good to try, Trump controls two and this news is about him smashing the third.

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    America, this is your five alarm fire. If everything else wasn’t enough to get you moving, dear God please let this be it.

    Get out and protest. Get talking to the other people at those protests. Build your network. You’re going to need it for what is coming.

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      I wonder if militias need to grow because I believe Trump will use everything in his power to destroy the liberals and any opposing force. Military could soon fraction and people will take sides, as one party wants to protect the constitution while the others oppose. Remeber our country was born based on the constitution…We are on the right side of history cause it reflects core American values. You decide to errode that then your not a true American. They will always be traitors considering they are freely defying the constitution now…fuck them and I cant wait til their day comes.

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    My local branch of the ICE Enforcement and Removal division is not answering calls. It rings and rings without end.

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    Increased danger to the public?

    If dude was already out and about and minding his business, dude continuing to be out and about keeps the amount of danger just about the same.

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    I know trumpers won’t ever hear about this or if they do it will be a completely twisted story and they’ll think the judge shot at the ice agents or something but the amount of mental effort it has to take to not see this as a tinpot dictator move is unbelievable. It’s hard to believe people this dumb walk among us and go to work and everything