Summary

Trump stated the U.S. will “go as far as we have to go” to gain control of Greenland, citing national and international security needs.

JD Vance will visit Greenland’s Pituffik military base, scaling back a broader visit amid backlash from Greenland and Denmark.

Greenlandic Prime Minister Mute Egede condemned the move as “aggressive pressure” and insisted that “Greenland belongs to the Greenlanders.”

Trump has repeatedly expressed interest in acquiring Greenland, asserting that U.S. control is essential for security.

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    The United States is threatening invasion of a free and allied nation.

    The media is complicit.

    The population is complicit.

    Edit: The military is complicit.

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        Anyone who sits on their ass at this news is complicit. We are reaching the points where not standing up is in fact approval for the regime and their actions

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        Or felons or disenfranchised for some reason it another.

        Chill, some people have reasons and maybe they aren’t all worse then actual fascists. I’d say likely most aren’t but dehumanization is also fun though I guess.

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          We all knew where this was going.

          Those who didn’t vote based on some sort of moral principle were dumb enough to not realize they would make whatever those issues were 1000 times worse.

          Hope they’re happy with people being disappeared off the streets.

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            Sure.

            Yeah that doesn’t magically make them not disenfranchised felons, voting would just be committing a fairly serious crime.

            That’s fucked up Nazi shit bud.

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              Oh geez, you can act like that’s what I’m saying, but it’s not.

              Nice try though? Whatever it takes to make you feel less bad about your decisions.

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                It’s literally what you said and doubled down on bud.

                Ed: I didn’t choose to be a felon nor in fact do most people but you don’t seem to even be reading what I’m saying because you’re still assuming it’s a choice. You’re a bigot.

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          What reasons because of Gaza? Yah how did that turn out seems one option was worse then the other.

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            I already said there are reasons people couldn’t vote that are beyond their control like felon disenfranchisement.

            You understand reasons exist beyond ideological ones correct?

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            They didn’t add any nuance and they doubled down, why would I think more or less than what is said.

            Ed: >Anyone who didn’t vote is especially responsible.

            Fucking dumbasses that they are.

            Where’s the exception, where’s the nuance? Oh then maybe be like oh shit sorry I could be more clear, instead of “that’s not what I said” which is factually incorrect.

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              The irony of someone asking where the nuance is and immediately diving for the worst possible interpretation is truly amazing 😂😂😂

              I can only assume you didn’t vote and feel guilty due to your need to deflect.

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                That’s not irony boss.

                Ed: also we’ve went over this already but you’re either too dumb to remember or conveniently forgetting. I’m a disenfranchised voter and you’re just a bigot.

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                “yeah man where is the nuance, fucking dumbass.”

                You’re really not digging yourself out of the bigoted asshole rut you’ve dug yourself.

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        Then do something about your mad king, else your inaction speaks volumes.

        How does that saying go… “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

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          See my other replies in here on what I’m already doing, which isn’t unique to me specifically, many are doing these things. What else would you suggest I/we do?

          Your inaction speaks volumes

          Good men do nothing

          Since I’m not just sitting on my ass and complaining or just throwing out Boondock Saints quotes without having some substance underneath it, your reply doesn’t apply to me.

          I know those of you outside of the US have dealt with some shit in your own countries, help us with some good suggestions please! Kicking us, especially those of us trying to make a difference, while we are down, isn’t helpful.

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            “Don’t beat us while we’re down” - the country literally disappearing people.

            The world has a right to be angry at your domestic issue that has turned global over the past 10 years.

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      You sure are giving this idiots words a lot of power. I’m guessing you’ve never lived in the US. You will learn soon enough that he lies a lot.

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    Welp. It was nice being in NATO while it lasted I guess.

    You guys should definitely invoke article 5 if we pull anything, and if orangeboi vetoes it, straight up ignore him and A5 anyways. I am completely serious.

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      Most of NATO’s coordination is done by the U.S. it would be difficult for the other countries to organize themselves with a U.S. veto.

      Besides, I doubt any country is crazy enough to attack the U.S.

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        Hopefully. If the US leaves NATO and then attacks, article 5 can be triggered.

        If they attack before leaving NATO I don’t believe article 5 can be used.

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          A lot of NATO coordination is done by the US, so if it leaves it remains to be seen whether the remaining countries could quickly reorganize.

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    That’s basically a declaration of war against a NATO country.
    The US should thus also bomb itself through article 5 when it decides to invade Greenland.

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    I wish this man would finally do something beneficial for the world and just die already… preferably of a cheeseburger related causation (heart attack, stroke, or choke).

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    NATO countries should put out a statement that they are ready to defend Greenland from any incursion.

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        Everyone knows that. The point is to create a deterrent by making it clear that they are 1) taking the threat seriously and 2) already preparing and planning to defend, IOW not fucking around. Sending some extra troops to the island and/or flying some jets around the area on a regular isn’t a bad idea either.

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      Seems to be a combination of Putin sowing chaos, trump desperately wanting to be just like his comrade boyfriend by illegally annexing sovereign territory and just general dick-swinging. We already have a base there. I guess they just want to waste more money by occupying a tundra. He must have some contractors that he owes.

      Time to toss him on his ass. I’m sick of this horseshit.

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        If Europe is allowing Israel to illegally annex sovereign territories, why not allow the US to do the same?

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          Don’t think for a second that I support that nonsense either. Too many innocent people are being slaughtered because of the greed fueling a handful of leaders. Too many nations are unfortunately complicit. Time for a change

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      Strategic control of the melting Arctic, half of which is bordered by Russia and the other half by Greenland and Canada, both of which Trump wants to invade. Also a foothold in Greenland would be useful in an assault on Canada, whose resources both Putin and Trump want. Canada would be fully surrounded by the USA and Russia.

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      Honest answer?

      Trump himself couldn’t care less about Greenland. I will bet the left body part of your choice that Trump couldn’t point out Greenland on a map or knows a single thing about the long-term importance of Greenland. He is going after Greenland because someone is telling him to go after Greenland. And no, it’s not Putin. It’s his corporate donors. Granted, this also benefits Putin as it would lead to the dissolution of NATO in the process, but that’s just a side effect.

      Corporate donors, privately, aren’t stupid people. They damn well know that climate change is real and their companies are fucking up the planet. They’ll never, ever say that publicly for obvious reasons, but they know it. But they’ll be damned if they’re not going to make a shitload of money along the way. And they also know that what is currently largely uninhabitable tundra right now is going to become prime real estate as climate change worsens everywhere else. Much of that uninhabitable tundra will become land that will allow people to live relatively as comfortably as they’re living now.

      Grab a large, largely uninhabited island now, and you’ll have prime real estate for a whole bunch of rich people to escape to while the rest of the world is forced to deal with the escalating effects of climate change. As a bonus, since it’s an island in the Arctic, mass immigration is nigh-on impossible which means they get all the bonuses of living comfortably without even having to worry about an invasion of undesirables. You know…poor people. Or brown people. And they’ll have the backing of the US military to sink any ships that even try.

      Yeah, even Greenland will eventually succumb to the effects of climate change. But for a short while, that’s going to become some absolutely pristine land compared to much of the rest of the world, and as far as the rich are concerned, that 30-40 years is 30-40 years that they can continue to live comfortably while the rest of the world gets to choke to death on the environment that they created. And by the time Greenland starts feeling the effects, they’ll be long since dead so they have no reason to care.

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        Disagree on the Putin part. Putin is one of the richest and is the most powerful man in Russia, so he’s included in your rich cabal, but he’s also signaled for years that he’s a geopolitical colonizer and wants to reunite Soviet Union states. His main opposition is NATO which he’s able to dismantle with the help of Trump, thus opening up the door to further fracture resistance to his actions.

        There’s a substantial amount of circumstantial evidence pointing to Trump being a Russian asset, his latest policies only further confirm that.

        The rich cabal you’re talking about absolutely hitched their wagon to Trump to make money in the instability to come, but they don’t give a shit about Greenland. It’s a pawn that they don’t care about, but their friend Putin does.

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          Putin is mostly interested in the former USSR. Greenland wasn’t part of that. Putin will gladly let Trump do whatever he wants with Greenland because if Trump takes action that automatically dissolves NATO as we know it and basically forces a war between the US and the rest of NATO which allows him to basically recreate the USSR by force while NATO trips over its own feet. Granted, Putin (just like any other world leader) would gladly take whatever he can get. But he doesn’t need Greenland. There’s enough Russian territory that Putin already controls that will also become prime real estate at the same time, making a Greenland annexation largely pointless. He wouldn’t need to worry about sharing Greenland with the others in the cabal when he’s got enough of his own to make Greenland seem like Gilligan’s Island by comparison.

          And yeah, we all know Trump’s a russian asset. That’s been known for years.

          And I disagree about the cabals not caring about Greenland. They know where there’s money to be made. Right now, much of Greenland is uninhabitable. Which means it’s also cheap. So if they get in on the ground floor now, what will that land be worth in 10 years, when more people start feeling more effects of climate change and there’s more of an eye on Greenland as a possible refuge? 20 years? Whenever that land becomes viable. That’s a lot of land, and therefore a lot of money. Whether for short term profits, long-term hedging of bets against the very climate change they’re fueling, or a combination of both, I can guarantee you there are a lot of people interested.

          With that said, I think we both ultimately agree on who will benefit the most; we are merely disagreeing over how much each of them will benefit. And I think we can both agree that no matter which one of them win, we lose.

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        It’s still really far north and you’ll never be able to grow as much since the season is so short. Also have the never ending darkness and sunlight. Not to mention lots of it is muskeg that has been frozen for centuries. And it’s not as good as you make it sound.

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        this also benefits Putin as it would lead to the dissolution of NATO in the process, but that’s just a side effect.

        Definitely not a side-effect. This is the main effect. The dissolution of NATO is his main goal. Besides personal grifting, Trump’s strict allegiance to Putin has been his one consistency since 2016.

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      He’s a fucking idiot, there is no true reason beyond that. Dude’s so stupid he doesn’t realize he’s a foreign agent.