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    So, when Social Security gets gutted, we’re all getting the money we put in back, right? …right?!

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    The American Prospect, which first reported earlier this week that Acting SSA Commissioner Leland Dudek was weighing staff cuts of up to 50%

    Congratulations protest non voters, this is what you voted for.

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      alot of MAGA are stupid enough to believe hes just joking on what hes going to do, besides the bigotry.

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      Why are you so happy that people are unrepresented by their options in the voting booth? Don’t you believe in democracy? It’s not like the flaws of First past the post voting only became known in the last election. I certainly saw many comments just like yours when Donald Trump was first elected. Why did blue states refuse to change how votes were counted? Why are they still using FPTP voting?

      Are you working to get these people represented? There are alternative voting systems that give people the freedom to vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect. Here are some videos to reference while you work towards passing electoral reform in your state.

      Videos on Electoral Reform

      First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

      Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

      STAR voting

      Alternative vote

      Ranked Choice voting

      Range Voting

      Single Transferable Vote

      Mixed Member Proportional representation

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        Electoral reform also only works if people vote.

        “In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard’s vote.” ~ David Foster Wallace

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        Frankly: lolol.

        And if you are a protest non voter, then congratulations on voting for Trump. This is what you voted for.

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        So you assume to know what others want? Because I’m right there with them. Non protest/non-voters absolutely helped to put us here. There is nothing at all wrong with pointing this out.

        And as John Lydon would say: Anger is an energy.

        And I believe that anger’s best use now is ensuring that the fucking assholes that did this are called out and learn from it so that if god-forbid we happen to find ourselves here again, they’ll acutely get off their assed and fucking help.

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          Hey Rhoeri, it’s been a while. How’s the campaign for electoral reform going in your state? I’m sure you’re making alot of progress, you always seem so concerned with 3rd party/non voters and the spoiler effect.

          You do want to solve the spoiler effect that is inherent with First Past The Post voting right? Then these people can vote for who best represents them and still have their vote counted against the republicans if their choice didn’t win.

          Because the solution is more democracy, not forcing people to vote for your preference. Just keep that in mind while you’re working to get a new voting system implemented. Appreciate your community service.

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            Electoral reform in my state? It’s going the same as it’s going in the rest of the states:

            It’s not going at all. And no amount of protests or petitions is going to change that. Are you not paying attention? Trump essentially owns the military now. We lost that chance to enact anything remotely resembling electoral reform when you gave up everyone’s rights by staying home in protest

            It’s game over bud.

            You don’t get to sit around on your thumbs doing jack shit in November and then expect everyone to rally in response to your bad decisions in March.

            You made the bed. Now you get to sleep in it with the rest of us.

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          All you’re doing is ensuring people ignore the Democrats. They hate politics. They don’t trust you or the parties. Yelling at them just confirms it.

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            “oh the people who won’t do anything will keep doing nothing”

            Oh shit whatever will I do with their feelings being hurt. Poor little fee fees. Fuck the people that sat out or protest voted or were dumb enough to pretend Trump actually would help bring peace anywhere much less to Palestine.

            What are they going to do, be upset that they have to hear the truth?

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            So people who do shit all are going to do what exactly when their fee-fees are hurt? People that do nothing are worth nothing and don’t need to be treated better than that.

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              They will continue to do nothing. Which is, if I understand what you want, counter to your intention.

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            And all you’re doing is expecting people to kiss your collective asses while you all sit around and smugly talk down to everyone while making bullshit proclamations.

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              That’s laughable. After decades of politicians measurably ignoring their constituents and making laws their corporate donors ask for, you accuse people of being egotistical. That’s straight up bullshit dude.

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              All you’re doing is demanding people to vote for your preference while doing nothing about getting people representation.

              Keep me posted on how the electoral reform campaign is going in your state. Thanks

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                Yeah. I don’t take anyone that says “blueMAGA” seriously, and I don’t believe anyone else should either.

                We had a chance to avoid this. You all chose entitlement and stayed home. So stop with the electoral reform bullshit. It’s not happening now that you helped Trump seal the deal.

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          He’s blaming the people who didn’t vote. Which is a bullshit theory the conservative Democrats have been pushing to keep from dealing with why they lost.

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            I’ll point you back to the article. And to my comment: Congratulations protest non voters, this is what you voted for.

            Literally what protest non voters voted for.

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              Sigh. They didn’t vote. That’s quite literally not a vote. No matter how hard you want to blame them for something they didn’t do.

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                  Is it? Aren’t we always talking about voter suppression?

                  Face it, the Democrats didn’t make a positive argument for themselves and people were tired of hearing that Republicans were evil. They promised stuff.

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                Sigh. They made a choice that amounted to voting for this. An intentional and deliberate choice. Thus, this is what they voted for. Congratulations!

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                  Oh? Aren’t you guys always yelling about voter suppression? So which is it? Everyone who didn’t vote made a conscious decision or at least some people were prevented from voting?

                  As for the rest. Yes apathy is a choice. After decades of watching both parties do nothing about their slow slide into homelessness I cannot act surprised that people are more worried about making rent than voting.

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                  like 3 common things popped right after the elections from non-voters : “how is this affecting me now, or whenever” someone on reddit said this was from POC and persecuted groups which makes them look even worst. 2) dint know the incumbent was even running or dropped out 3) They cant be bothered by election to vote(goes back to the social media distractions they have been obssesed with)? the first 2 knew what was going on, chose to ignore it. the final one it was shown that genz dint vote for either side in large numbers, which helped the republicans, because the gop were afraid of gen z voters, and then a portion of them went over to the R-side for the first time(thanks to incel grifters)

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                that is literally a vote, as the saying goes, standing by not to doing anything is bad as helping the enemy.

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    I work with two people that are within a year of retiring and they are absolutely ecstatic that Trump was doing this to Social Security, as well I work with people that are in their early 20s that are exactly the same happy that this is happening and thinking that they will all become super wealthy.

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      did you ask them if they were making 400k+ year? because thats the only group above 400k that will benefit from all these tax cuts.

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        No I didn’t bring that up, I actually barely talk to anybody I work with anymore. I just listen and laugh to myself.

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      It’s weird how these people seemingly learned nothing from history. I remember hearing from baby boomers (as a Gen Xer) that they would not get to collect Social Security by the time they retired, since the Silent Generation/Greatest Generation were going to use it all up, that it wasn’t funded, it was a pyramid scheme, etc…and they just want “their” money so they could gamble on the stock market with it instead. Naturally, I heard a lot of Gen X pick up and parrot a lot of this same bullshit narrative, with probably even MORE zeal since there were a whole lot more baby boomers than there were Gen X. Turns out Gen Y was quite large, but that didn’t stop people from repeating this, even if it was pointed out that any kind of “problem” was easily fixed if you lifted the cap on SS.

      Rinse, repeat…and it’s the exact same shit. Now apparently fucking Gen Z is saying it too. You just know that eventually the anti-intellectual dipshits will get their way in making everything awful. It’s a whole lot easier to break stuff than to build it…

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      like alot of sketchy companies, employers will just eliminate some of thier employees even more to give them selves more money, and just squeeze out the skeleton crew for alot tech, biotech, and health

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    It’s weird to me how much some people have internalized the politics of austerity this quickly.

    The economy was humming under Biden. There was no emergency, no indicator that we have to “tighten our belts”.

    Then Bronzo enters the office and fElon with his MOE (Ministry of Efficiency) and all they want to do is cut everything. Even in the MOE Cinematic Universe…how do they possibly justify any of this shit? They plan on cutting taxes at the same time, so it’s not about balancing anything.

    What’s worse, is that I now seeing lots of people on the left saying that government is bloated and should be cut, but done with precision. WTAF?

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      1. Just use their real fucking names and stop with the childish theatrics.
      2. Nobody is going to say “yeah I think the government should have busy work jobs”.
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        Just use their real fucking names

        Nah. I do that for people I actually think deserve respect.

        Nobody is going to say “yeah I think the government should have busy work jobs”.

        False dilemma. I’m not asking liberals to say that. I’m asking that people justify the claims that government is “bloated”. I want them to define exactly what part is supposedly bloated or inefficient. I’m asking them to explain why austerity is suddenly needed when we just had a Goldilocks economy. To me it seems like they are just obeying in advance, but they just take issue with the implementation.

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    This is a great way to create jobs for the SS recipients. /s