Summary
Army Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach, a highly accomplished pilot and top 20% ROTC cadet, was among 67 killed when her Black Hawk helicopter collided with an American Airlines jet near Washington, D.C.
Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth blamed “DEI” for the crash despite no official cause being determined.
Lobach had 450+ flight hours and numerous military honors.
He’s literally blaming it on a woman driver, what a geriatric sexist prick
Are women considered “diversity” in the US now? At this point only undereducated-white-trash will have the right to work. Good luck lol
Trump clearly wants to go back to the 1900s where women weren’t allowed to served, especially colored people
I mean, white women were the single demographic group to benefit most from affirmative action, despite racists preferring to paint it as a program that only benefited African Americans in their reverse racism arguments, so yeah, they count in my book. Especially when you consider that a large portion of far-right white men want them to occupy the trad wife role and not been seen outside the home and church again.
Yes and they always have. It just marks the success of the programs that women working in top roles has become so normalized that people don’t even realize it was different.
Indeed they are, there’s a place for the woman and it’s not considered the workforce by these backwards psychotics.
RIP Captain Lobach and all those who perished. Mango Mussolini and his side kick Hegseth are shitstains that belong in a broken Russian toilet.
Has he even heard of the concept of dignity? How can someone be so loathsome and lack such awareness of it.
He says the Military has gotten weak and mocks them. Lloyd Austin whom Trump replaced with a FOX entertainment anchor served in the military from 1975-2016 as a 4 star general holding several high ranking positions working his way up to Secretary of Defense. So that would point to me that he believes the military has been weak for 50 years. Then again when he was called to service he said his little footsies hurt and dodged the draft. So what he really knows of the interworking and what our soilders go through for training is nothing.
Or, he simply doesn’t want any competent military members to stand in his way while he’s breaking laws.
I might not know much about the military other than having lots of ex-military family, but I know enough about flying and in particular, helicopters to know you don’t get to fly that sort of kit without a LOT of hard work and skill. ‘Rotary wing’ pilots are absolutely batshit crazy. This sinister DEI dogwhistle is abhorrent.
You don’t fly a helicopter, you constantly avoid crashing one.
Lloyd Austin would not have deployed troops on US soil. That’s a major Trump goal.
Maybe this is what he was trying to draw with his sharpie.
I hope nobody expects him to learn anything. This will actually just reinforce his anti-DEI beliefs. He’ll blame the crash on the fact that the pilot was a woman, use that as proof that “DEI is making our military weaker”, and then start issuing executive orders banning women from piloting or even doing anything noteworthy in the military at all. Because doubling down on the stupid is what Trump does. It’s all he does. God help us if that woman was even 1% non-white.
How many spaces do you have between sentences? Asking for a friend.
Am I the only one that sees 3?
Yes?Weird, Jerboa looks like this
Hmmm. Voyager here. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It just so happens I’ve been reading the book The Invisible Gorilla, and shortly before this accident, I read the part about flight simulators and how they would insert planes turning onto a runway that the simulated plane is trying to land on. Some of the people in the simulator never even saw it.
This is a rather common event IRL - called a “runway incursion”. The book says in 2007, the FAA recorded 370 at American airports. Most of these don’t end up in collisions.
But I couldn’t help but wonder if something like this was in play here…humans are not as attentive as we would like to think we are - in other words, “looking is not really seeing”. I wonder what will come of a longer, less politically-charged investigation into all factors here. I doubt it’s going to be “DEI”, but I also don’t know if donvict and fElon’s actions played a role either - although they probably are not meant to help the situation.
(And I recommend the book, even though I’ve not finished it. It’s quite good)
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Reminder: The wording of the trans military ban made no reference to medical issues caused by transition, and outright claimed we were “Without honor, discipline, or an obligation to truth.”
The point is to claim the accomplishments of the “other” are unearned
Seems it was her fault though. She said she had the CRJ in sight, but was obviously looking at a different aircraft.
Here’s the Pilot Debrief video on it.
The point is anybody could have missed seeing that plane. It’s not even certain they had an angle that allowed them to see it. And what about the plane pilots? Her helicopter was 100 feet high but there was supposed to be 200 feet of separation between the ceiling and floor of the respective paths. Ergo, the plane was 100 feet low.
It was a stupidly difficult situation for both crews and that’s why they’ve indefinitely closed the helicopter path.
I’m not confident in the altitudes yet. Maybe you have better data, but everything I’ve seen indicating those values is based on GPS, which is not always very accurate. I suspect we’ll know more soon but I don’t know that we’ll ever have the full story about if PAT25 had the wrong CRJ visual or what.
Yeah, my main point is that blaming just one person for this entire tragedy requires ignoring a lot of other factors.
The helicopter confirmed visual. Plane pilots were on the approach with clearance to land. Controller gave the helicopter the CRJ’s height and vector. They knew we’re to look to see it.
And it’s still not that easy.
This just goes to show that they shouldn’t be flying helicopters next to airports. Like, duh?
Perhaps it was, but the argument isn’t that DEI candidates are infallible it’s that she was already an established high performer. Seems like it’s ok to move beyond this ridiculous DEI argument and try to figure out why one our best was able to get into this predicament and what we can learn from it for the future. Pretty sure that’s where we would be already if it was either a white male pilot or we didn’t have a country full of idiotic bigots.
Agree completely. Diversity has nothing to do with this other than our dumbass president whinging.
Here’s the audio from atc
