About F’ing time.
Why not replace McConnell anyways and let them prove otherwise?
Because Kentucky law says Beshear would have to call an election so a Republican would get in anyway. But that law might be unconstitutional from what I’ve read. But also is it a fight worth spending political capital and legal fees on when realistically it won’t change anything and there’ll be a new Republican Kentucky senator in 6 months?
I thought special elections were trending less MAGA these days.
Its still Kentucky.
Which has a Democrat for a governor. Senators are up for statewide elections just like governors.
The reason they want to stop a Special Election, is in one of those Maise can run despite losing the Republican primary
He might not win, but he’d suck up enough votes from the other Republican to give it to a Dem
So I’ve heard this said before, but I don’t really get it.
Massie is a current Kentucky House representative, he lost his primary so his term will end in January.
McConnell’s seat is up for election in November, so his term also ends in January.
If a special election is held, it’s just to fill out his term until the end of January.
So in a scenario where a special election is held and Massie wins, he has to resign his House seat to take the Senate seat, but the term still ends in January.
Does that really change anything?
Thought is it may give him incumbent advantage.
He can’t be the incumbent.
The race for McConnell’s seat is already underway and the Republican nominee already picked. Additionally all other deadlines to run as an Independent have passed.
Ok rereading this I think you missed the whole shenanigan the last few weeks. If McConnell is declared dead before Aug 3, then there is a special election/appointment (because that’s debated). If McConnell is declared dead on or after Aug 3, then there is a rule that kicks in that because it’s only 3 months until the midterms, then there is no special election/appointment and McConnell’s seat election gets rolled up together with the midterms.
The GOP is concerned that if McConnell is declared dead before Aug 3, then there will be an appointment/special election to replace McConnell before the midterms. That will make Massie/whoever wins/is appointed the “incumbent”. Yes that will be short lived because the midterm election will happen anyway. But they still don’t want it. Their thought process is that if Massie wins/is appointed, then it will give him an “incumbent” advantage in the midterms (in scare quotes if you want). So they are keeping McConnell on life support until Aug 3 so that it gets punted to the mdterms.
Republican is a Republican is a Republican. The corpse is probably still a better option.
The corpse is basically in a permanent “present” vote, or even less then that? Because it can delay quorum?
McConnell’s absence is not affecting quorum, but it is one less R vote for as long as he’s out.
Plus new Senators need to be sworn in which I’m sure if a dem won the special election the republican controlled senate would just simply not swear them in.
Cool, let’s fuckin make them do that bullshit then.
I’m tired of going “well if we fight back, they’ll just fight back”. Like yeah, they are actively fighting us. We are in a fight. We’re being punched in the face. If we punch them, they will punch us. If we don’t punch them, they will still punch us.
I’m tired of being punched. I want to punch.
yes, because otherwise Beshear looks like a total do-nothing tool, and the dems REALLY need to prove to their voters that they actually do something, or people wont get off their couches again.
Wasting time and money of a guaranteed loss is WORSE than being a “do-nothing tool”. Why do people automatically assuming “doing” is automatically good? You can DO bad things.
If Democrats want to help elect Republicans because they’re too stupid to see that, we’re fucked anyway.
And the election requires 63 days’ notice to the sheriffs in each county. And two elections a few weeks apart is going to annoy and confuse voters.
And (extrapolating the process for vacancies in primary elections) Beshear isn’t the one who formally recognizes McConnell’s absence for the purposes of the election; his Republican SoS is.
And if Beshear calls up an election without having properly verified only for McConnell to show real proof of life, the Democratic governor of a deeply red state with two more years left is going to have a scandal on his hands.
They’re basically asking Beshear to snatch a Democratic scandal from the jaws of a Republican one.
That law is unconstitutional. The Kentucky constitution says the governor can just appoint a replacement.
As I pointed out in another comment: the Kentucky Constitution does not say this.
Any vacancy not covered (which in the Kentucky Constitution’s case are city, town, county, district, State) is filled as “prescribed by law”.
No better to just let someone incapable to do their job have it.
because hes bluemaga like all the parties that arent maga in america, its just a performative dance
Imagine not showing up to your job for 43 days and even the governor is demanding that you do something, but you’re just like “nah” and nothing happens to you and you keep your job.
#nokings?
Well all you have to do is work hard enough to buy your own lawless reality. They’re living the American dream, I think?
The actual one, yeah.
So we’re calling mildly worded letters an order now? He’s doing the same bullshit everyone else does. Every week that gets added to this he writes another letter. MF the deadline for the election is next week.
For context Senator Ben Lujan from New Mexico got BRAIN SURGERY after a STROKE. He returned to work after a little over a month. He took less time off than McConnell has had for what is allegedly only a minor case of Pneumonia.
Why does Trump get carté blanché but when it’s anyone else they just throw their hands in the air. Beshear needs to just hold the special election. Watch how fast they provide information.
Call for the special election anyway.
If he’s alive he’s gotta say something to stop it.
McConnell doing what he’s best at: stalling
He’s passed on! This senator is no more! He has ceased to be! He’s expired and gone to meet his maker! He’s a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If they hadn’t nailed him to the hospital bed he’d be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He’s off the twig! He’s kicked the bucket, he’s shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible!! HE IS AN EX-SENATOR!!
His soul has left, but his shite remains
Nope! Chuck Testa.
Maybe he should try to contact him for comment via a séance.
yeah he has a good reason for not resigning, being dead and all.
They’ll update on August 3rd to avoid the special election
Isn’t there only a week left until it’s too late for a special election? If the Republicans are covering up his death they’re not going to give in when they’re so close.
Exactly. Play dirty and create a nasty constitutional crisis. Worse case scenario is that the fucker is still alive. Best, it exposes the GOP that will puppeteer a corpse not to lose power.
Yeah exactly - and this letter shows that the governor isn’t going to do anything about it.
He’s “insisting” that Thune begins the process to consider the seat vacant if McConnell can’t serve. “Pwetty pwease can you declare a vacancy? If not I’ll be so sad.”
Good luck with that…
I am reminded of the situation around Dianne Feinstein in 2023, who held on to her seat until her death, even though rumors were swirling that she had dementia that was only getting worse. She actually gave power of attorney over her personal affairs to her daughter a few months before her death, while still serving as Senator.
(But, even through all that she still had lucid moments, and actually voted to prevent a government shutdown just before she died, which is more than Mitch has done recently.)
We really need some way to get these people to step aside when the time comes.
Time for his medical records to get hacked
Why not bum rush the hospital. Or offer go fund me for $100,000 for any hospital staff that provides proof.
The right have made multiple people millionaires for said hard R to kids on playgrounds.
Kids are bum rushing scientology buildings.
The left are like crying everyday how things suck but then not doing anything effective. So tired of the left
Hospital staff inappropriately accessing a patient’s medical record would violate both HIPAA and the HiTech act. That person could face civil and criminal liability for such an act.
This is why the left fucking suck and MAGA is dominating.
Who fucking cares about HIPAA. Cry about it. Thanks for stopping by to announce you know the rules. Rules don’t matter anymore. Which is why i said give the person a good million like MAGA did for people who yell racial slurs at kids.
Now if you don’t think the left can do the stuff the right is able to, maybe they’re not the dumb ones.
As a healthcare IT worker I can tell you that people in healthcare fucking care about HIPAA. You sound ignorant.
This is such an insane comment 😆
Stop lying
If we all Naruto run at the hospital they can’t stop us all.
Area 51-2: we’ve pivoted from alien pussy to turtle pussy
turtle pussy
Just make absolutely sure which end is which before going to town on a snapping turtle
Right like how the fucking hell do you all have the energy to Naruto run area 51, scientology buildings, get dressed up in costume to get shot by ICE, show up in the millions to protest in cities world wide yet I’m the crazy one for thinking maybe bite off a challenge that has a real goal. One that like is attainable. He’s at the hospital. Once proof exist that cat isn’t going back in the bag. So why such a push online from randoms who will convince people to go protest and get arrested but not have fun with this one.
I seriously believe online discourse is heavily influenced by bots that act like sheep herders
I think that you’ve got a lot of brainwashed people - MAGA/DSA come to mind. I don’t think that brainwashing just goes away, even if they diverge from the ‘mainstream’.
I, for one, think you’re right. Hell, you could probably just use a drone to skip all the dangerous bits. Either way, the action will have consequences - honestly it could be good or bad but hopefully good.
Weird to ask an unresponsive corpse to resign. Just pick a new senator!
Is this a firm “day after it doesn’t matter” deadline?
Mitch “The Bitch” McConnell is a traitor who made a career out of obstructing progress for the American people. It’s no surprise that he’s chosen to continue obstructing progress as his final act.
It can’t come soon enough. Not that the treasonous Republican party is going to offer anyone better to fill his position.
I would like to think he may be setting up everyone involved in the cover up of McConnell’s death to be complicit in organized fraud. I want to see arrests made for this bullshit.
