Jon carries a lot of water for the idea that the Democratic Party leadership are inept.
They are not. They accomplish every task they set out to.
The problem is that they don’t want the same things the voters in the party want.
They don’t want to “win”. The only thing they want is to maintain their proximity to wealth and power, and so they have cast their lot with the oligarchy, the same as Republicans.
The Democratic Party ”runs cover” (“block tackle” for you Europeans) for the Republicans while the Republicans overtly dismantle democracy. There is always a parliamentarian or a “blue slip rule” to help the Dems steal defeat from the jaws of victory. How many times do they need to strain credulity and invent some new excuse or mechanism for their failure for it to form a composite image of collaboration?
The Democratic Party is a honeypot used to attract and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and prevent the “Overton Window” of American politics from moving left.
At every crucial moment they have supported the privatization and financialization of the commons, the wars of aggression, the surveillance & police state, and they will continue to do so until Palantir storm troopers are dragging people from their Blackrock housing to Amazon work camps to fulfill their mandated techno feudal district conscription period.
I think you’re wrong. Or rather, I think you’re mostly wrong.
Like, in no way do I think they are extremely good at what they do, unless your argument is that they don’t give a shit, which I also think is wrong. They definitely want to win. They definitely want to control things. They literally make more money (not the organization, mind you, the people who run the organization) when they are in control. It is silly to think otherwise. Heck, it is safer, too!
But, I think they are quite dumb, or maybe it’s better to think of them as out of touch. They rely on political calculus, but they’re using some pretty bad variables. Because otherwise, there wouldn’t be any progressive Democrats at all. Like, that is inherently detrimental to their centrism. Giving crumbs isn’t as useful to them as people say because it let’s others know how hungry they are for more of that. Hope is contagious.
I think they work with what they got, and what they got is so rapidly changing that they freak out and pick what they think is the safest option over and over again. And their base hates it, but they’ll deal with that part later, there’s just too many fires for them!
Like, sure, there’s a little bit of trying to control how progressive they can be, but they just… Suck at that, too. I dunno, man. A lot of people can skate by on incompetency, and that just feels more likely.
If they wanted to win they would release the 2024 election autopsy. Instead they buried it. Yes, they dont mind winning elections but they absolutely would rather lose than allow progressives in power. They just buried the election autopsy a week ago and now everyone forgot about it. Same thing trump relies on to stay in power.
I think you’re missing the whole point of OP. The democrats exist to be a bulwark against leftward movement on the US political spectrum. Your point that the democrats allow progressive voices to exist within the party rather than outwardly excluding them actually reinforces this argument rather than weakens it. It creates the illusion that the Democratic Party is a leftwing party why the pragmatic end result is that the democrats do not produce leftwing policies.
This is all in the interests of their powerful megadonor who, make no mistake, would rather lose an election than let a truly progressive leader come to power in America.
Thank you! Like why are we acting like what’s happening in the Middle East isn’t chuck schumers lifelong wet dream in action??
Sometimes I wonder if they don’t have a monthly secret meeting where they look at which issues appear to be up and coming and then flip a coin for which party takes which side of it. Kinda like debate club.
It often looks more like performance art. The dems pretend to take one side of an issue, and then rally their base about how the GOP want to stop the solution or tear down current protections. And of course the GOP takes the other side and rallys their base against what the “lunatic” dems want to do (which of course the dems would never do because then the issue would be gone), and they start proposing ways to tear down whatever law already favor the democrats side.
When the dems get in power, somehow very few of the things they proposed before actually happen. And the ones that do are so soft an executive order can undo them.
It’s just a shell game. Perception manipulation.
All of this is true, but by saying it you might somehow influence the outcome of an election in a manner that favors Republicans.
Therefore I hate you with every fiber of my being and denounce you as a Sockpuppet of an Enemy Nation.
I just haven’t decided if you’re a Russian Bot, a Chinese Wumao, or an Ayatollah Accomplice. Perhaps all three.
I’m not an american, but it seems like the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.
There’s this vibe of self-destruction in american society that is rooted in the 2 party system: one party is your mortal enemy and another doesn’t quite represent you - so everyone just low key feels like destroying the whole thing rather than working on making it better.
Money In Politics
Two Party System
Gerrymandering
Electoral College
The four horsemen of a Democratic apocalypse.
If we could fix just one of those four issues, things would gradually start to get better. But the politicians in Washington don’t have the political will or desire to do so, because removing any one of them naturally limits their power and authority.
I would argue based on 2025-26 the US is a one party system. A party of corruption, graft and self-enrichment.
I don’t disagree, but the problem stems from neither party being motivated to be anything more than ideologically different from one another, and the system being designed on purpose to squash a viable 3rd party from ever emerging. If we instead had a parliamentary system and did away with FPTP voting, we could have more coalition building around issues rather than feeling like we have no choice but to select what we deem to be the lesser of two evils, and political parties would be forced to fix issues rather than just campaign on them.
I long for the day this comes true.
America is a one-party state, of course. But in typical American extravagance they have two of them.
OK guys, I have the greatest idea! July 4, 2026 will be the country’s 250th birthday! Let’s have a fireworks show the world will never forget! Let’s make this a global celebration! To do so, we’re going to connect our nuclear weapons to a random number generator. A hundred nukes will be launched to random coordinates on the Earth’s surface. Who knows where they’ll end up?!
Lol. this went harder than it should have. 10/10
We only have a 2 party system on paper. Behind closed doors, they are working for the same goals. Make the rich people happy so they can be rich people with influence. The general population is just something that they have to manage on their way to their goals. Adding more parties will help, but it will eventually end up the same. As long as you need money to get elected, then money will control those who get elected.
Yeah i used to say this as a kid: why is the government spending any money at all on primaries, and then why do they only spend money on two parties. Any private party should just pay for their own primaries, the govt should only be concerned with the general elections.
To my prepubescent eyes, it was clearly the government rigging elections. But all the adults told me that I didn’t understand.
Now 30 years later it’s plain as day that it was always a problem, and now we have a chomo-in-chief blowing up fishermen halfway around the world and people still don’t see the problem with the two party system.
the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.
Have you seen the other options? Libertarians are a NAMBLA fueled trainwreck. Greens are… not great for a lot of reasons. Third Way is just fascism in a three piece suit. Reform is six oil companies in a trench coat.
You can’t multi-party your way out of this one.
If the constitution and the political dynamics are designed for bi-partisan system it’s pretty hard to evolve out of it. A third party can also play as the king maker and have an unfair influence compared to its size. Some countries have a more dynamic coalition system but that has biases as well.
America will never be fixed because that would require all anericans to look inward and accept their shortcomings. Americans are incapable of doing that
Ah yes, it’s not a train of systemic issues compounding over 250 years combined with weaponized wealth disparity to keep everyone sick, isolated and tired. It’s because they won’t pull up their moral bootstraps.
Give me a fucking break.
I look inward all the time lol. its pretty fucked up in here too fyi
Good for him.
He doesn’t owe them shit
Ask AOC how that plays out
AOC is a great politician in the wrong country. No way will America vote a latina or a woman, or both.
AOC is a great politician in the wrong country.
AOC was a genuinely transformative candidate for about six months in 2019, right after she got elected but before Nancy Pelosi put her in a headlock and nuggied her into submission. Now she’s just a cardboard cutout of democratic socialism that the neoliberal base of the party can drag out to fundraise with.
No way will America vote a latina or a woman, or both.
America elected an African American Man, because he had a 1000 watt smile and knew how to talk pretty on TV.
I think AOC still needs work on her stage presence. But with some coaching and practice, a bit more time dealing with the national news vultures, and a base that’s hungry enough to buy what she’s selling, she could be a front-runner for anything she wants to run for.
If she makes it to a general election, indie voters are absolutely going to trip over their own dicks turning out for President Cute Feet. But I suspect she’ll be sandbagged in the primary by some mummy brigade from Iowa accidentally unplugging all the voting booths from the district with voters under the age of 40. Then she places a tight second behind Pete Buttigieg and the super-delegates tell her they’ll make her the VP candidate if she can raise an extra $150M.
No way will America vote a latina or a woman, or both.
America elected an African American Man, because he had a 1000 watt smile and knew how to talk pretty on TV.
This 1000 times. People need to stop listening to Democratic consultants who regularly lose elections for the wisdom of who Americans ‘will’ or ‘will not’ vote for.
The biggest issue AOC has and its a liability she hasn’t overcome, and which has actually gotten worse in her tenure, is her political instincts. And I think your point about the hug of death she got from Pelosi speaks volumes. Pelosi took her aside from the rest of the class and basically told her she needed to play ball. And since then AOC has been late-to-the party wayyyy too often. She is regularly getting outlflanked and outplayed on issues she truly, truly should never be vulnerable on.
Two huge red-flags for me: When she got her ankles broken on the court by MTG on weapons to Israel, and her more recent failure to endorse the chief of staff who ran the campaign that got her into office. Not to mention her perpetual machiavelian calculating she does. Its wayyyyyy too similar to Pelosi, and I’m losing faith in her.
People need to stop listening to Democratic consultants who regularly lose elections for the wisdom of who Americans ‘will’ or ‘will not’ vote for.
It really is mind-blowing. If you asked a DC consultant whether Donald Trump could win the Presidency in 2016 - much less 2024 - I gotta wonder what they’d tell you. Hillary Clinton thought her biggest competition was going to come from Jeb Bush. They didn’t even see Ted Cruz coming, nevermind Donald Trump.
Two huge red-flags for me: When she got her ankles broken on the court by MTG on weapons to Israel, and her more recent failure to endorse the chief of staff who ran the campaign that got her into office. Not to mention her perpetual machiavelian calculating she does. Its wayyyyyy too similar to Pelosi, and I’m losing faith in her.
She’s got Beltway Disease. It comes for a lot of inexperienced and naive outsider candidates.
Mr. Smith Goes To Washington isn’t fictional because it presupposes a Joe Everyman disgusted with the sausage making of politics. It’s fictional because it presumes Mr. Smith wouldn’t be easily seduced and incorporated into the sausage-making process.
Well, I known it’s not much but I’d vote for her
She seems to be able to do and say whatever she wants.
Instead of cowering in fear that Jeffries will primary her.
I call that a win.
She seems to be able to do and say whatever she wants.
I haven’t heard anything about the Green New Deal since 2020.
Looking forwards to that Schumer congratulations call.
I’ll be waiting…
Oh man I died a little reading this…
He doesn’t need the DNC. To be honest. He’s probably better off.
Im in trump country Maine and some of the trump houses have his sign up.
Damn
just a few but they were a sight for sore eyes. We’re a real impressionable & community oriented people so being the first guy to hang the sign is a brave move worth noticing.
The fucking primary hasn’t happened yet…
His opponent suspended her campaign, he will make it to the general…
But Jesus Fucking Christ, we’ve been fighting since before Jimmy Carter to get a DNC that will leave downballot primaries alone and run fair presidential ones.
The current DNC won’t say shit about any candidate till after they win a primary.
Which is something Jon Stewart of all people should understand is a good thing. And I feel like neither him or Graham was as harsh on the podcast as the article makes it out to be.
The current DNC won’t say shit about any candidate till after they win a primary.
Just to be clear, that’s not true.
Maine’s primary is the most unusual of the three — and may be causing the most intraparty heartburn — because it is the only one where Democratic leadership has itself picked a candidate. Schumer and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the party’s official arm for Senate races, are backing Mills.
Per the Boston Globe on January 17th 2026.
And of course after this interview Mills dropped out and,
Meanwhile, Schumer and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chair Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, both of New York, said they would work with Platner to defeat Collins.
So the DNC and DSCC endorsed Mills before the primary. After Mills dropped out, they endorsed Platner. And while I’m glad they did, technically there is still another candidate and a write in candidate also running in the upcoming primary. It is not likely they’ll win, but they absolutely are endorsing before the primary.
A massive lead you say?
“Vote Blue, unless they’re trying to work for you”
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The DNC snubbing Platner is literally the only decent thing they’ve done in a long time.
The man is a cryptofacist murdering psychopath. I read his reddit history. I know what blackwater and Abu Ghraib are. If there was any justice in the world, this guy would be tried for his crimes and locked away for life.
The idea that Jon Stewart, a Jew, is simping for a guy with a Nazi tattoo he took 40 years to cover up is remarkable.
Cool story can’t wait to vote him in anyway. He’s running on a progressive pro-labor platform. It’s popular across the aisles and this weak smear campaign has done nothing to hurt him. yet here you are still repeating it. If he’s a Nazi than what is Susan collins. Who would you chose? Susan collins?
smear campaign
I read his public reddit posts bragging about murder, looked at his lifelong Nazi tattoo (before he covered it up for office), and formed the only possible conclusion an honest person could.
Alas, your pivot into trolley problems further entrenches your liberalism. Good luck with the Nazi shit when capitalism continues to degrade.
What capitalism bro? I’m a stock trader. This shits fucking broken. Sell puts on Tesla and stop being poor
Reading someone’s public Reddit posts from 14 years ago…. My twitter was WILD back then.
Jon Stewart isn’t a Jew he’s a Zionist. also known as a homicidal genocide loving pedophile. it doesn’t matter if the zionist is a Jew, a Christian, or a Muslim. they are all evil abominations. hell… during WWII the Nazis’ (christian zionists) biggest religious ally were the Zionist Jews who actively aided the Nazis in murdering Jews who were not Zionists.
