The GOP’s sweeping new anti-voting bill cleared the U.S. House Wednesday, setting up a high-stakes battle in the Senate.
The House voted 218-213 to pass the SAVE America Act, which experts have said could disenfranchise millions by requiring voters to show documentary proof of citizenship at registration and to provide photo ID when they cast ballots.
Republicans have argued for voter ID broadly, pointing out that there isn’t much to prevent a noncitizen from casting a ballot in a federal election — besides the fact that it’s a felony, easily caught, and would lead to deportation all for the chance to cast one out of hundreds of thousands of votes.
This mandates government registration to access an essential right of a citizen in a democracy. Ask for the same thing for gun ownership though and the right would lose their minds.
What’s interesting, is that many of us already do register with the state governments.
Its goal isn’t to regulate voting. It’s to suppress it.
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Last election several individuals committed voter AND election fraud. They were all Republicans.
Let’s see ‘em in the comments if you’re inclined to display them.
More recently there’s a mayor of some town (
in Texas, iircKansas) that’s facing deportation and multiple felony charges for voting in elections as a non-citizen.I’ll link to the story posted on lemmy if I can find it!Found it! https://lemmy.ml/post/43029958
To everyone saying people needed to wait until the mid-terms to take action: Fuck You.
Who do you think is saying that?
I mean, these guys pay good money for propaganda, I’m sure they have people posting shit like that everywhere to ensure people wait
Fuck the propagandists is a valid position to take.
I don’t think I’ve seen a single person saying that. Plenty saying that you should vote when mid-terms roll around, but none saying that you shouldn’t be doing anything before or after.
For example, this post last month: https://lemmy.world/comment/21539323
I sent a new reply to that comment with a link to this article and they still replied “that’s how elections work and you need to wait until November”.
Wow. Yeah that person’s a dumbass.
Yep. I’ve been asking for months and months where the protests are, and what about general strikes and so on. All I get is “it takes time to coordinate, just you wait” “it’s starting slow but will get up some steam soon” “wait til the mids” “it’s a big country, it’s very difficult to do anything but we will sort it blah fucking blah!”
It’s all bullshit.A fucking failed reality TV star, convicted criminal, idiotic bankruptcy champion, confirmed rapist and deffo child rapist took over the whole of the uNazied States of america in less than a year and 99% of their population did fuck all about it. Fuck and all.
After decades of them watching action movies whilst stroking their guns and threatening to shoot anyone who encroached their freedoms…yet a fucking orange geriatric paedo went full dictator on them without as much as a whimper. Pathetic.
We have ZERO leadership to capitalize on momentum by people marching and protesting, this is why BLM and No Kings had the highest turnout of protestors in history but led to NOTHING.
This isn’t a matter of people being complacent, this is people waiting for a “perfect leader” who will never come.
At least the right is so dumb that they will latch onto anyone, warts and all, to be their “daddy will save us” figurehead. It’s utterly broken and deficient on every level, but it becomes actual movement and political capital.
We can’t even get liberals and progressives to agree “if it’s okay to carry the American flag” and that’s why we have lost ALL our ground and why things are going to get worse.
Let me repeat that so you and everyone really get it.
Nobody is coming. It’s going to get worse.
Dude liberals can’t even comprehend that most Christians are on their side.
A long, tireless campaign of turning all of our social discourse and social pressure into online arguments and forum exchanges has made the bulk of America’s literate people tune out of political involvement entirely, how do we think there’s any chance of a “revolution” like so many people are calling for?
The exit polling from 2024 should be making us all CRY.
We can’t get enough people on-board for “general” strikes, we can’t get average people who want the same thing to agree on basic facts about reality like if science is valid and if vaccines work, we can’t get average, literate people to even want to be around other people anymore. Dating and sex have fallen off a cliff, people are more lonely than they’ve ever been, while at the same time clinging to their discord friend groups with snarling defensiveness when you suggest that they need to socialize more. Asociality has become an identity.
We can rebuild a positive movement if we focus on our communities, our neighbors and neighborhoods and our schools and workplaces, we can get people to connect again and start working towards group goals… but it takes a kind of work that most online leftists want NOTHING to do with, which is actual work towards better outcomes that they may not see themselves, because all of this takes a long time and a lot of patience and persistence and being social and understanding emotional intelligence.
provide photo ID when they cast ballots.
Does this mean mail in voting is dead?
Also, the party of state’s rights everyone.
Photo ID makes sense, if the country has this allready in place. In Belgium everyone over the age of 12 has one and it’s all you need to prove identity. And since it has a electronic chip, you can use it to handle quite a lot of official administration through the internet.
When the fuck do we just start killing politicians and billionaires? Seriously. Why are we still pretending like laws mean anything in this fucking country?
Luigi showed us the way.
MORE killing is never the answer. Did you know that there were really… effective “instruments” in the old ages?
Are you referring to guillotines and nooses?
There is soooo much more vile shit from the dark ages, try an iceberg video of such things.
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It is very often the only answer. We’re not talking about torture, jackass.
It’s a disgusting attempt to disenfranchise millions of women and anyone else who changes their name, or doesn’t have time/money for the hassle, but it’s also only one prong of the attack. The name match requirement would be at the time of voter registration, so wouldn’t affect current voters unless… Massive swaths were purged from the voter rolls - this is a reason why the feds keep suing for voter roll information from states, and why red states have complied
The GOP voted to take away the rights from almost every married woman in the country, think about that for a second and you’ll understand why they even made the SAVE act.
They claim it’s about immigrants, but it’s truly about taking away the right to vote from people the GOP doesn’t like. So if you aren’t a rich, white, male, you cannot vote under GOP rule.
Weren’t conservative white women and “trad wives” blamed wholesale for Trump’s 2024 win?
Shouldn’t this be giving Democrats a collective erection?
The GOP voted to take away the rights from almost every married woman in the country
No, they didn’t. This isn’t going to be enforced in heavily Republican districts where women are loyal conservative voters.
Yeah, they did. How it may or may not be enforced has no bearing on whether or not they voted for it. Which they did.
Time for women everywhere to refuse to take their husband’s surname when they get married.
Married women can’t vote because the names don’t match.
This will skate through the Senate. Elections in the USA won’t mean shit after this.
Well done american voters! And a special shoutout to all the sitouts who stood idly by and let a fascist child rapist in on their watch.
And wtf can be used as “proof of citizenship”
Some paper you lost 30 years ago
Ironically, passports which most non-native-born Americans already own and keep updated constantly because they often travel in and out of the country to visit family and attend events.
It’s projected this is going to hurt red states more than blue, since most midwest white-as-fuck Americans who never left their hometown and are scared of the whole world don’t have a shred of identification past their driver’s license.
Meanwhile, most immigrant families I know have their passports and copies of their birth certificates on-hand at all times.
A “real ID”, a state driver’s licence or identity card which was verified with a birth certificate, passport or citizenship certificate.
A real ID does not mean US citizen. Non-US citizens can receive a real ID. It just proves you are a lawful resident in the US.
Same for drivers license and ID card.
A birth certificate does no good on it’s own. And verifying a birth certificate is another can of worms. If it can only be the official government issued one? Then you get into the whole birth right citizen thing. You can easily be a US citizen without being born in US.
Passport would be the closest thing to a true “Citizen ID”. US Nationals can receive a US passport without being citizens.
Citizenship certificates would fix the birth certificate problem of US citizens being born outside of the states. However they cost 1k+. Maybe they can make them cheaper or hand them out?
It’s laughable how bad identification is in the US. We still use social security numbers.
I wouldn’t be against Voting IDs if everyone was issued one for free and replacements were easy and inexpensive to obtain.
I have my birth certificate, federal ID, and social security card handy. If that’s not good enough, they can go fuck themselves. How much more proof does one need?
ReadID verifies identity, not citizenship
GOP is scared. They know, short of gestapo-like tactics this November, their days are numbered.
Sucks that they’re capable of gestapo type tactics, then.
It’s not what they’re capable of, it’s what they are able to do without repercussions. When there is no penalty people can do very bad things, like in war.
The repercussions will be at worst felt by the grunts on the ground, and those repercussions will be used as an excuse to somehow disregard contentious voting site results…
This is a daylight robbery. Time to respond in kind.
This season of House of Cards is thrilling!
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oh wait, I’m living inside the tv show… 🫠
I’m a Canadian so I don’t have to put up with this… but I don’t think I could legally prove citizenship on the spot though.
I do have a birth certificate, but it’s damaged, and would be considered invalid. It would cost me money to replace.
In this case it literally doesn’t even begin to matter for us because all we need is our voter registration paper that government mails to us. We can bring other stuff but that’s it.
In Canada, you can go to your provinces service website to order a new one. They will mail it to you.
I know I can get it, I just can’t be bothered and don’t want to spend the money.
