Go ahead, vote MAGA in the midterms if you’re curious how fucked your life can get.

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    Honestly curious to see how this pans out. Trump’s polling still seems higher than it should be given the shit show he’s presiding over.

    Here in the UK, we appear desperate to touch the Reform stove. I despair.

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      Plebiscite is, specifically, the common term for popular vote.

      I think I get what you’re going for though.

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    Hard to work hard when fuckers like him are trying to pay employees even less every year.

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    He is setting USA up for the worst economic crisis in history.

    The biggest, the best, the most beautiful financial downfall the world has ever seen.

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      Crashed economies hurt the poor. The rich use their wealth to buy up resources, realestate, stocks, etc. on the cheap and then ride it out in their luxury homes while the rest of us stand in the bread lines.

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        What hes aiming for is destabilization.

        He’s already talking civil war.

        Which I think is his ultimate goal. and the goal of his masters.

        Civil War 2 on a horrific scale, that knocks America out of any meaningful global position for years, if not decades afterwards.

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      It will take a bit more time. Enough time that when the next president steps in, the aftermath will really show. Then this egotistic maniac will point at that president and blame them. Never him fault, according to him.

      But that’s narcissism for you.

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    “Who didn’t work very hard”
    Says the obese orange paedo that has never worked a day in his life.
    The only thing this fat tub of corruption ever worked hard at was finding and raping little children. Sweaty cunt.

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    I hate him.

    My dream is to be a homeowner and it’s slipping away faster than I can chase after it.

    I fucking hate him so much.

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    Here’s the thing that I think a lot of people don’t understand about home ownership: Housing prices going up is only beneficial if you plan to sell.

    We were (very) lucky and were able to get in on the tail end of the early 2010s housing crisis and leverage the first-time homebuyer incentives that were offered at the time to buy a modest house. It cost $245k. It’s currently worth $550k, and people seem to think this means we made $300k in profit! Yay us! And technically, on paper, sure, we did, but in reality, no.

    Housing prices across the board are up, and we still need a place to live, so if we sold this place, we’d have to buy something else (at the same grossly inflated prices), or we’d have to rent (at grossly inflated prices). If the $550k this place is worth on paper buys us something that would have cost $245k in 2010, we haven’t gained anything.

    Either way, we have no intention of selling, so we will never see a cent of that increased value. What we are seeing, however, is increased property taxes since the property has, on paper, doubled in value.

    What I’m getting at is, this doesn’t benefit homeowners, it benefits housing investors, who are the group Trump really wants to prop up.

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      You know who it is good for? Boomers who are selling their big houses to go live in a condo or nursing home. Guess who votes for this shit.

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        If no one can afford the boomer homes, the houses stay unsold so there’s a balance when trying to maximise profit.

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          Yes, but when they do they cash out without needing comparable housing. Plus, more of them have finished paying their mortgages, so they can afford to wait.

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      This is something that has baffled me for a while when I see or hear people talking happily about their home value going up or talking about their house as an investment and get mad at the thought of a drop in home value. Even if these people never sold their house, if home prices keep increasing faster than wages, then at some point they won’t be able to afford the taxes on their home. I just don’t get it, smh.

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      Same here. We bought our modest house and have been slowly updating it. But we never plan on moving unless we absolutely have to. So I don’t need or want it to increase in value. The value is it’s my home.

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      It doesn’t help home owners, home buyers or even home sellers looking for a lateral move in a new area or an upgrade to a bigger or nicer home. In fact for the latter two, it ultimately hurts them. The people that it helps are those who are looking to downsize their home, move into a nursing home, or move in with their kids. i.e. people old enough to not have kids living with them anymore, retirees, etc. They can sell their 600k home they bought for 80k 40 years ago, pocket all of that or the difference if they buy a smaller home, and use it as a slush fund on top of their social security and 401k to take vacations.

      Meanwhile, their home is bought as an investment property that people like their kids and grandkids will need to rent instead of own, spending more per month than a mortgage would be for the same home, especially as rent increases every year to keep up with the housing market (even though the only costs that go up for the landlord with the market increases is a marginal amount on taxes and cost to buy MORE investment properties), and with the renters gaining no equity for their rent dollars while their landlord profits off of that money instead.

      Hell, not only would lower housing prices mean that more people could become homeowners, or means current homeowners could afford to get a bigger home for their family, or live closer to work, or get a nicer/newer home that isn’t a money pit.

      Raising house prices ONLY benefits the elderly homeowner looking to sell and the landlords looking for more tenants and higher rents. Speaking as a homeowner, for the love of god, bring housing prices down.

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      A-fucking-men.
      I’m in a similar boat house. We bought in 2011, used a USDA loan and were able to pick our place up for a song ($160k). It now has a “value” of ~$360k. And all that extra “value” is doing for me is increasing taxes and insurance costs. I’m not planning on selling any time soon, so my home “price” going up is a net negative. Sure, we might sell in a decade or so, but today’s price won’t have a major impact on that.

      What I’m getting at is, this doesn’t benefit homeowners, it benefits housing investors, who are the group Trump really wants to prop up.

      What? You’re telling me the pedophile, racist, Nazi sympathizer, billionare son of a racist, Nazi sympathizer who made the family’s billions by wartime real estate profiteering is more interested in protecting real estate profiteering than helping people? Color me shocked, absolutely shocked, I say. Well, not that shocked.

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      I agree. It doesn’t help me that people who work in my town can’t live in my town. It doesn’t help me when taxes go up on my house. I have the same house if prices crash lower than we bought. I have the same house if prices go up.

      In fact - if prices bottom out and we can keep our jobs, maybe I have a better house because maybe we can afford to do some reno that is too expensive right now because housing is so expensive.

      “Didn’t work so hard” WTF? Did Trump work hard? There seems almost no correlation between who works hard and who has money. Some who work hard have money, some don’t. Some who never worked at all have money, some don’t.

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      Raising house prices do benefit you, if you don’t have kids or don’t otherwise have heirs you want to leave money to. Reverse mortgages exist, and their are millions of baby boomers financing their retirements off of the increases in their home equity.

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      Housing prices going up mostly benefits real estate agents.

      As a home owner I don’t really care if my house goes up in value. I don’t include it in my net worth (even though it’s paid off).

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    LOL, I cannot wait until I have my next IRL conversations with the more-leftist-than-thou dumbasses that sat out or voted third party and the Enlightened Centrists that voted for Taco because they fell for the right wing/Russian agitprop that Biden’s economy was so terrible and/or that Kamala was genocidal and/or something something “gerontocracy”.

    JFC.

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      Christian USA basically had to choose between the Antichist and your average capital-loving politician and they went “fuck it, I’ll vote for satan cause he said he I’ll make gas cheaper.”. And the pedo-guy still has a 40% approval rating at the current moment. This country is a lost cause.

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      Ah yes waste time blaming people who were actually trying to move the needle back to the left but were roundly ignored by a bunch of geriatric genociders who would rather pander to racists and ignoramuses who would never vote for them in the first place than just idk maybe stop committing genocide.

      This will totally get those people to vote for the other milque toast white racist that the dems put up as a candidate without any sort of election and just expect everyone to vote for because “at least theyre not trump” without actually having any policy that differs from republicans in any sort of meaningful way.

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        I’ve been struggling with this for a while. I can understand and respect the moral dilemma that comes with participating in elections. I think, though, too many people look at it in a black and white lens that creates blinders.

        I’ve never in my life voted for a candidate that I agreed with on everything. Yes, the moral importance of some issues weigh far heavier than others, but the ultimate goal is to do the least bad. I will continue to vote for the candidates I believe offer the most harm reduction if voting is available to me, because these are the options I have to work with. We have to make decisions in the moment that reflect the reality of where we’re at.

        We’re living through the consequences of inaction that presents itself as protest. Had Kamala won, do we think we’d be seeing the absolute fucking insanity we’ve found ourselves in right now? I’m glad this moment is pushing more and more people to action and resistance, but at what cost? People are being disappeared, deported, and murdered in the streets by our government right now. And Gazans certainly haven’t benefitted from the current administration. This is a level of bad I never expected to see in my life, and I think there are a lot of terminally online people who are seeing this in a romanticized way that obscures the severity of the situation we find ourselves in.

        We likely would have had more ability to push things to the left without the levels of harm, destruction, and violence that we’re seeing now under just about anyone but Trump and Project 2025. Instead of activism and outreach, now we have to play defense and protect our neighbors and communities. Not to mention the roll acks of rights to the health and safety of women and queer people are more passively costing lives and creating suffering.

        Yes, the status quo was terrible. Democrats offer pretty words and little action. They aren’t going to save us or give us the futures we deserve. I’d give just about anything for us to be out of this, though. Humiliation and disgust on an international scale, the daily violence, and reading new horrors every damn day is absolutely the greater of two evils, though. I can’t see a scenario where anything is worth what’s in store.

        Non voters aren’t the sole reason we’re here, but I’m sick of pretending that those people’s choices didn’t play a large role in our current situation. These times demand we all do some soul searching, take accountability, and work together to get out of this in one piece. Because, again, we have to live in the reality of where we’re at.

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      Yes it’s the individuals that are the problem not the party that chains to be left but sides right every single fucking time.

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        Do you honestly think that if Harris won there would be armed agents on the street murdering citizens, driving your economy to historic lows, alienating your closest allies, tanking trade routes, invading Venezuela, kidnapping anyone with a skin colour darker than snow white…

        I could go on.

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        So, who else to blame for voters that think Taco and Kamala are the same and that Taco would be “better for 'conomy”? That’s the fault of the Democratic Party?

        People keep blaming them for anything and everything and how they have to “message better”, but the Democrats don’t really have any kind of media to get that message out on.

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          No one said that. But it’s inarguable that the Democratic party is in large part responsible for people not wanting to vote for the candidates they put forth knowing full well we want an actual lefty and not a corporate business monster.

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      200 NGOs Oppose Biden’s Historic Expansion of ICE Detention System: “Detention should not be about politics.”

      ICE records show Biden admin plans could give Trump a head start on deportations

      President Biden Signs Anti-Immigrant Spending Bill Reaching Trump-Era Highs

      Biden’s Emergency Funding Proposal Seeks $14 Billion for Immigration System From Congress

      Tom Homan - Border Czar was originally appointed by Obama

      Keep in mind, these democrat moves to bolster ICE were happening while the right was blatantly telegraphing their moves to immediately weaponize ICE once they took power. Project 2025 came out and promised to use ICE to plunder and abuse Americans. Biden and team then spent the next 4 years not only failing to prepare for Trump, but preemptively strengthening the mechanisms Trump would eventually use to carry out project 2025. The democrats are controlled opposition.

      Sure, maybe we wouldnt be seeing this intense of immigration enforcement if Kamala were in charge, but if she were, she’d be working behind the scenes to ensure the right had all the tools they needed when the time was right.

      The democrats are controlled opposition and the American electoral system is kabuki theater. The fascist descent is the only logical conclusion to the American political experiment- which was predicated on the wholesale genocide of Native American Indians and quickly pivoted to enslaving an entire continent.

      You realize what the only logical conclusion to your “pragmatic liberal utilitarianism” is, right? I give it 4 years before youre chiding leftists for not voting for dem candidate Ted Cruz as he campaigns against republican candidate Mecha Hitler. Youll still see nothing wrong with that. You will sell out the victims of American Imperialism to buy yourself 4 more years of political waffling - just as you did with Palestinians.

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        Immigration was a huge debate issue during that time and something just kept saying not enough was being done to combat a bunch of lies and made up stories. So yeah, they went all in an said “see” but gumball in chief just kept lying and swindling and y’all ate it up.

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      Your top dem wants trans people exterminated just like Trump. So where’s the FUCKING choice? If trump was a dem, you’d vote for him.

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    vote MAGA in the midterms if you’re curious how fucked your life can get.

    Or don’t vote. Again. Either will have the same effect.

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    If only salary and net worth would be tied to the actual effort made at work.

    Almost all CEOs would be homeless.