One that he just announced on fake Twitter without even consulting any of the required allies apparently lol. Not sure you can call that a plan.

Rubio is hoping to stay alive next to Trump long enough to be crowned Governor of Cuba. The fact is that despite Rubio himself being useless, this could actually work.

We all said rightly that the president doesn’t control gas prices, at least those of us who had half a clue how economics worked did.

The logic is mostly sound because president’s don’t have a magic dial to control oil prices. But the logic also has sane decision making baked into it - president’s consider the effects that their actions will have on the price of oil and don’t do shit like this that will definitely increase it. Since that sanity no longer holds , the logic no longer holds .

Presumably the US would allow any other tankers to pass. They don’t want to block other countries. The remarkable thing is that they’re allowing Iranian tankers to pass, and the reason is that blocking them is basically an act of was against China.

I am not sure how abstinence only being the only acceptable option is any better than it being the best option.

The distinction is important because perpetuating their only acceptable option despite it being demonstrably ineffective indicates that child welfare is not the primacy concern in play.

Again being Pro-life does not necessarily mean that they will vote for dismantling social services.

And yet, despite it not being necessarily true it is absolutely true in every practical sense in reality.

I simply don’t understand why you insist on assuming that they are lying.

I simply don’t understand why you insist on taking political talking points as 100 percent sincere instead of looking at the tangible actions being taken in this space.

Is that not what you are doing? You are blaming them for voting how they do.

You don’t even know what to do with this definition after quoting it. If course I “blame” them for voting how they do. Is assigning someone responsibility for their actions “demonizing” them? Lol. You’re lost in the sauce bruh.

Ultimately I think we have reached that 3rd situation. I have decided that nothing I say is going to change your mind on this and am choosing to walk away.

Other countries are able to have this discussion in far more healthy and productive ways. Instead of being content with your one insight that prolife and pro-choice are talking past each other, I suggest you ask yourself why that is, and why this positioning of the discussion is basically unique to the US. There’s a whole wide world out there.

But, before I do that, I think you have lost what my original argument was about. I am asserting that the abortion debate will never end due to each side arguing about disparate things.

Since you’re apparently lost, I’ll make I’ll summarize - the two sides talking past each other is how this issue was engineered. This is a manufactured debate designed for political purposes, and not for the welfare of kids. There’s a reason this nonsense took hold in the US and nowhere else in the western world.

But this ignores one of their central beliefs; that abstinence only is the best education to reduce abortions.

They absolutely don’t believe that lol. They believe it is the only acceptable option (even it demonstrably doesn’t work).

Next you talk about dismantling social safety nets. From looking at a few Pro-life groups many of them do not really talk about changing social services for kids at all. The ones that do talk about increasing education, providing counseling, and promoting adoption as an option. I think what the misunderstanding might be is that many people who are Pro-life are also republican who also believe in a reduction of government social services in favor of private services. This assignment of belief is not transferable. What I mean by this is that being Pro-life does not necessarily equate to wanting to dismantle social safety nets.

I simply don’t understand why you insist on taking what everyone says at face value while ignoring their actual actions - how they vote.

Last thing that you mentioned that I want to comment on is about single-issue voters. Of course I would encourage people to be aware about all the issues that affect them. But I do not agree with the demonization of single-issue voters.

I’m not demonizing them lol. I’m calling them stupid. If you’re a single issue voter, you are completely captive. The guy who embodies your one key issue can do anything else they want because they know they have you. Single issue voters always end up being suckers in there end.

You don’t actually expect me to believe that you think all Pro-life people believe that children don’t deserve a good home. Sure there might be some people out there like that. But it’s much more likely that the majority of people do actually care.

Instead of appealing to your own incredulity, perhaps you could just look at the other actions of the people involved. If the people claiming to be Pro Life to prevent child murder, they would take actions to prevent that outcome through comprehensive sex education and contraceptive availability. Most of them don’t. They would also not vote to annihilate social safety nets for children once they are born. Most of them do. Taking those into account suggests that child welfare is not the only or even the dominant goal of the movement.

If your entire argument is that there exists some pro life people who care about these things then sure, you “win” that’s not relevant to the overall situation. The dominant views and actions of the pro life movement in the US stem from a concerted effort to create a political wedge and to create captive single-issue voters. It worked.

The US is not unique here in its diversity of views. All across the world people (even pro-choice people) don’t “like” abortion. There is no preference for it. It is for most people a (very) necessary evil. But most western countries have managed to deal with the the abortion issue in a healthier and effective way that is more aligned with the stated goals of the pro life movement than what the actual pro life movement has managed in the US.

Acting like this is some free, open ethical debate devoid of political manipulation between people trying to save children and people trying to maintain women’s bodily autonomy is hopelessly naive.

It doesn’t matter who they have dinner with when they answer to their handlers at AIPAC. Israel wants this war so they will make a few noises to pretend to be opposition but do everything tangible to support it.

They will enforce it selectively to avoid that outcome. Even now their tourism industry has taken a hit but many tourists still go without incident.

While you do that AIPAC is ensuring that your 2028 option will be Newsom and Rahm Emanuel or someone else they hand pick. That way they win no matter what happens and Americans remain pay pigs for genocide.

The fact that this clown is a “Top US Health Official” is a great indication of an empire in decline.

Shit like that gets you labeled a Communist in today’s GOP.

It’s an interesting dynamic. AIPAC provides a clear path for politicians willing to toe the line of absolute, unthinking support of Israel in all things. But AIPAC only works towards Israel’s strategic depth if that support is truly absolute. They still have so much strategic depth that AIPAC occupies itself by denying even the conversation about how much support Israel should get through actions this one - there is no conversation, they must get whatever they ask for and anyone who disagrees is an anti Semite.

The problem with this all-or-nothing approach is that it lets them get completely out flanked - they can’t control someone who never wanted AIPAC support in the first place.

There’s like a 50 percent chance he’ll be dead by the time it really starts.

Do you know the identity of the shooter? Cause they’re not just going to tell you.

They just have to give Kid Rock and Ted Nugent tenure .

He made this deal with the NATO secretary general Mark Rutte, who has literally no authority to give anything away on behalf of Denmark or Greenland.

Miller is a vicious little shit who has what fantasy authors would call “low cunning”. He knows very well that he will never be as influential as he is right now, and that his influence will likely die with Trump. So he’s speed running all his stuff.

This type of shit is why I really do not understand why people want Gavin Newsom as the next presidential candidate.

It’s just pragmatism. He’s the type of non-MAGA candidate that the US could actually elect, should a fair election occur again .

I can’t wait for the ADL’s statement explaining how this is fine and not real antisemitism.