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just_another_person@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 month ago

US federal judges consider creating own armed security force as threats mount

www.theguardian.com

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US federal judges consider creating own armed security force as threats mount

www.theguardian.com

just_another_person@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 month ago
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Proposal would move security under judges’ control as justice department has vowed loyalty to president
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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    If judges are being threatened by POTUS they need to issue an arrest warrant.

    Deputize a citizens milita and arrest him.

  • hperrin@lemmy.ca
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    Isn’t that what US Marshals are? Or do they mean specifically one not under control of the DOJ?

    • mriswith@lemmy.world
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      The second once, since the attorney general is a fascist.

    • slappypantsgo@lemm.ee
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      What did it say in the article?

  • Ænima@lemm.ee
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    So what happens if the thugs in the DoJ clash with this judicial security? Are they prepared to turn their weapons on the DoJ officers? If not, then this is only to protect judges from stochastic terrorism at the hands of tRump supporters. Dark passages up ahead, I fear.

    • just_another_person@lemmy.worldOP
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      The DOJ is subordinate to the Judiciary, regardless of what these assclowns are trying to cosplay.

      The Judiciary is equal to Executive and Congress. That’s just a fucking fact. A Federal Judges ruling has the same weight as any bullshit Executive Order Trump can crap out on paper.

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        That seems to matter little to this regime. So, I ask again, what happens when they clash? We saw them stage a situation and try to arrest sitting members of congress and a mayor. In a sane world, you are correct. We don’t live in that world so subordination doesn’t matter!

    • Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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      If they aren’t ready to put down fascist jackboots they aren’t gonna be able to do the job.

  • this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world
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    Which threats? The ones from the POTUS?

    • Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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      Sure seems like they should start holding his administration accountable, right? RIGHT?

  • perestroika@lemm.ee
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    They should. Some minimal physical protection may be needed to meet, consider, decide and publish a decision (nothing more) if things get really bad.

    If they can modify the US Marshals service get independence from the DoJ, that seems reasonable.

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      They still need Congress to fund it which seems unlikely.

  • sturlabragason@lemmy.world
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    So we are nearing the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinance_of_Secession part…

    • just_another_person@lemmy.worldOP
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      Not quite.

      • sturlabragason@lemmy.world
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        Ok, i take it back then.

  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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    I think the US is in need of 3 capitals like in South Africa, one for each branch of government.

    • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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      That’s such an EU thing to do 😄

  • Lucky_777@lemmy.world
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    This needs to happen!!! The start of the rebels

    • tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world
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      Maybe it’s time for the Senate to start forming a Grand Army of the Republic?

      • Lucky_777@lemmy.world
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        We can have Luigi head up the council of Jedi

  • pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee
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    As they should be scared. They are currently dismantling the United States… did they not think there would be ramifications?

    • Burninator05@lemmy.world
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      I’m sure there are a lot of court cases i don’t hear about but they seem to be siding with the constitution most of the time.

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    Wasn’t that the US marshals?

  • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
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    Good! We can train THEM to Write Strong Letters INSTEAD of Forcing the Judges to! Which is MUCH More Preferable than RULING on the LAWS!

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    Nah, we need politicians to be able to feel fear, imo. If they never have to think “will this come back to haunt me?” then that’s going to enable a lot of awful shit.

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    Or they can take responsibility over their actions? Lol who am I kidding.

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      The courts can take responsibility over their actions? They seem to be doing most things right. Even the SC seems to be making the constitutional decision a lot of the time.

      It’s the president that is stiring up his base against the courts when they rule he did something unconstitutional. And that happens almost every day.

      • aceshigh@lemmy.world
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        They’re not doing anything about the president violating the constitution.

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    They can’t. Congress has to do that.

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      You say that like you genuinely believe the law matters, consider reexamining that assumption

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        The mistake your making is looking at the subject. The courts won’t do something unconstitutional. TRUMP will

        So until the courts play the game of “no law” they HAVE to do that.

        WE don’t.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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          The courts won’t do something unconstitutional.

          Why?

          Are they stupid?

          • thedruid@lemmy.world
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            Because then, they wouldn’t be the courts

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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              Who fucking cares?

              • thedruid@lemmy.world
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                you do you want something done that the courts won’t do

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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                  I don’t care that they “wouldn’t be the courts” - whatever that means. If they wouldn’t be the courts, what would they be?

                  I do care that they act before we fucking die.

                  Kind of different.

        • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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          If they have a choice at all then no they do not have to, they are choosing to, that’s just what the words mean

          • thedruid@lemmy.world
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            No. See the courts don’t make law. They interpret it. But they can’t ignore the constitution or they wouldn’t be courts.

            • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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              Removed by mod

              • thedruid@lemmy.world
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                better than yours

                • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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                  It bears no resemblance to reality, so no not really

      • just_another_person@lemmy.worldOP
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        Sure seems to.

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          For you maybe

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