Knew this was coming.
Expect a bunch of democrats to jump on board to save their jobs.
“Don’t worry, we’ll reverse our decision later. Yeah. You just need to wait!”
They’ll check and see how many votes the repubs need first, and put up that many plus a few for safety. The rest of the dems get to pretend to be opposed. But whatever the repubs need from dems, they will get.
That’s exactly the backdoor deals they are doing, they only publicly hate each other, but behind the scenes they support the same agenda. Once in a while they allow one of their agenda to be pushed or blocked taking turns doing it, and this designed to gauge support for said bills from voters.
Fuck this
Where are all of y’all dumb motherfuckers that were going on about how the two party system is rigged and you wanted RCV, and therefore you couldn’t vote for Democrats because they weren’t adequately enthused about the idea
Where the fuck are you bitches
We’re hiding in our basements waiting for Trump to save Gaza
Incorrect allotment of blame, for the furtherance of an agenda.
My only agenda here is reminding y’all that all of this could have been avoided. I’m sorry there wasn’t a better party than the Dems. I truly am. But what the fuck are you gonna do about it? How does abstaining from voting further that goal?
You can’t get change by working with democrats, the democrats have bent over backwards to prove they do not outright oppose the direction, only the speed we got here.
Their refusal to do their ‘job’ shows that their actual cause is not in governance but the allocation of power. In order to put up a resistance to republicans the democrats must first be dismantled. I told you people that i was going to hold my nose and vote blue, and it’s not that the democrats failed to get the vote.
It’s because they failed to get the vote because they had no interest in running on a coherent platform. It’s because after losing the confidence of their own base, they decided that it was progressive issues they must throw off as ballast. It’s because they appeal to the weak republicans voter over their own base. Its because they are actively undermining progressive proposals put forth by local progressive politicians. It’s because they parrot the ‘mandate of the people’ lie/republicans talking point to justify doing nothing. It’s because they attack individuals who put truth to power and try to do something.
So fucking no. You people do not get another ‘vote blue no matter who’ from me. Democrats are the opposition party to progressive policy. Its become crystal clear to me that if i want progressive policy, democrats must first be brought to heel, or destroyed. Only then can republicans be stopped.
So fucking no. You people do not get another ‘vote blue no matter who’ from me. Democrats are the opposition party to progressive policy. Its become crystal clear to me that if i want progressive policy, democrats must first be brought to heel, or destroyed. Only then can republicans be stopped.
You do this by hijacking the party the way Trump hijacked the GOP. Trying to start you own thing from scratch is so obviously doomed failure that you and all your ideas will remain irrelevant.
Nope, because the same pressures that caused that, are the same pressures that caused the democrats to be an issue in the first place.
They’re not. Capital might have found (or thought they found) a way to leverage and control Trump, but they didn’t want him in the first place. He took over anyways. The reasons for this many, but it shows that the path is available, even if difficult. The idea that you’re going to break the two party system from outside it without a total societal collapse at this point is pure fantasy.
Its more absurd that you think that you can change a corrupt party from within. And that you are willing to do the same thing that has failed every time and expecting different results. If you think trump getting worse will change that calculus for the better, you are mistaken, democrats are somehow losing footing by being obviously feckless, and actively preventing what you hope for. The voters would be confused you see. It the mandate of the people. We got to reach out to the republicans, blah blah blah
You can draw a line from the Tories and Whigs at the USA’s founding to the modern day Republican and Democrat parties.
They didn’t just spring from the ether, they were birthed from internal party politics. Why do you think the most progressive people we have in our Congress are Democrats or, in cases like the incredibly rare independent like Bernie, are working with the Dems?
It’s not a fluke. Being surprised that sitting on your hands and pouting that the party won’t pay attention to a person who won’t do anything to help them win is crazy.
What’s your pitch? “hey as someone who will do literally nothing to improve your odds of being elected you should pay attention to me!”. No, it doesn’t work like that.
My pitch if you had been watching, and my whole reason for being here in the first place was the comment that, 100 days into a trump presidency still blames the large group of progressive disenfranchised voters for the fall of democracy. These voters are not agents of political power beyond who they vote for. If they did not vote for democrats, that is because of a deficiency in the democratic platform. The democrats do not get to be a progressive platform by default because they are the party of damage mitigation. They are by all intense and purposes, a right wing political party who’s demonstrated position is on passing conservatives policies that are more temperate then the republicans. they post lip service to progressive values when it comes time to vote, and then is thrown away when it comes time to act.
They want my vote, they can act like it.
LMAO ok so what are you gonna do light your vote on fire and help the Republicans? Nice plan.
If i do it’s my right. Don’t like it? I don’t care. But i will most likely vote independent for someone i trust to push progressive policy.
You serve us you lame bitches.
These guys are goading us into imposing street justice.
History repeats
And that’ll goad them into enacting marshall law, and well, they have tanks.
Out of curiosity, what constitutional basis do they have to do this? Elections are explicitly run by the states and there’s nothing about RCV or any voting system that prevents a fair election.
There working on the constitutional basis of wanting to become a dictatorship, can’t have people voting against you now can you?
There’s anywhere from 100-400MM USD distributed for election security and infrastructure provided by the federal government to states on a yearly basis. The path forward would likely to be barring distribution of such funds for any state which holds RCV elections.
The same one where they can skip due process and “deport” people.
The rules are pretty muddy right now.
RCV favours moderate candidates. If you are in a political extreme, you might argue that that’s not fair. But I don’t see how it not being perfect can result in a ban. Specially when the current system is more unfair.
hr 42069 - “take away everything good and make sadness mandatory”
Can someone please explain.
Isn’t that cute, pretending we’re still going to have elections.
