• boaratio@lemmy.world
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    Why is this a headline? The racist, misogynist, bigoted electorate that got us to where we are won’t elect a woman? Maybe they’re just unlikeable.

  • billwashere@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    No it’s not America isn’t ready for a woman president. It’s not ready to have the DNC keep nominating candidates that lack any appeal or enthusiasm.

    Let me preface this rant with I voted for both Hillary and Kamala.

    Hillary was a terrible candidate because she is neither conservative or liberal/progressive. The DNC railroaded Bernie because it was Hillary’s “turn”.

    And with Kamala instead of have an actual primary and getting the best candidate, they just shoe horned her in at the last possible minute and expected everyone to just be ok with it. Not to mention she falls into the same category as Hillary who is neither conservative or progressive so equally disliked on both sides.

    I think the problem ultimately lies within the democrats themselves unwilling to listen to the younger voters who are in dire need of hope and change not the status quo that really isn’t working for them or anybody really. It also doesn’t help that neither party really gives two shits about pissing off the liberal base and it shows.

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    Well, so far the women we’ve run are 1) one of the most hated politicians of all time, and 2) a cop who repeatedly stated her support for genocide.

    So… idk if ‘women’ is the issue here. Maybe we should try running one that doesn’t come with decades of baggage / isn’t an overtly horrible person?

    I mean, sexism is definitely a factor, but one that has thus far only become insurmountable in combination with a mountain other barriers.

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      Also a majority of Americans are fucking straight up dumb and not engaged in politics or news at all. Last study I saw Americans average a 6th grade reading level. What this looks like in practice though is:

      • Can read: Straightforward, informational text like food labels, bills, and basic news articles.
      • Can understand: Stories with plots, character changes, and a clear point of view.
      • Likely needs help with: Texts that use a high degree of academic vocabulary, complex sentence structures, or highly abstract concepts, as found in high school or college-level material.

      So until the Dems can also narrow and dumb down their messaging they won’t gain ground. It’s why when Walz called them weird it worked so well because everyone understands that.

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      I think you nailed it here. Give the people a choice to vote for AOC and I think it will happen.

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    Doesn’t help that the “women candidate” the DNC spit out are neoliberal status quo protectors, their “female candidates” is at best performative from them.

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    Disclaimer: My comment which follows does not apply to fans and supporters of a candidate. It applies to a difference in how male and female candidates are referred to in the media.

    When our society reaches the stage where TV pundits, political blog writers, etc. stop referring to women candidates by just their first name (almost every time) in the same context that they continue referring to men candidates using their last name, or title + last name, then maybe I’ll believe the US is ready to elect a woman president.

    (edit: I should add to that list, also when even the opposing side will use her last name same as they do with male candidates that they are against, meaning that they may hate her but still have at least that much respect for her as a candidate)

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      Well the woman who made this statement is the wife of a former president. We cannot call her Obama, there already is an “Obama”. The other candidate of relevance was Clinton, another wife of a former president. Current woman politicians of note for some reason get referred to as acronyms, AOC and MTG for example.

      You’re point doesn’t really hold up because news agencies are going to try to avoid obvious confusion.

      Kamala was also reffered to as Harris, but that may have been a result of her regularly pronouncing her first name differently throughout her campaign.

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      And Harris saw a massive surge of popularity when Biden first stepped down. When the only thing most people knew about her was that she was a black woman, everyone loved her. It was only when she opened her mouth that her popularity tanked hard.

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    Perhaps it’s because the Democrat party keeps trying to force a woman candidate instead of letting it happen naturally. Voters wanted Bernie Sanders, instead the party made Hilary Clinton the nominee. Then they didn’t even have a proper primary in 2024. Biden won the primary because he was the incumbent and nobody really tried to run against him. Then he dropped out, it was too late for a primary, and Harris was just appointed as his replacement.

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    Other parts of the world already had women as presidents and prime ministers for decades. Some countries have had queens as the primary ruler for centuries.

    Then there is America.

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    Sad indeed. The rest of the world does mostly okay by their elected woman leaders. So…no metric system and no women leaders. Got it. I just hope to all that is holy that the country is not ready for a pedophiliac leader.

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    She’s perpetrating the bullshit that it’s about race or gender. If that woman is continuing the exact same policies that old white men orchestrating she will lose. The public by and large is saying we are tired of old white rich men dictating our lives telling us that we are not struggling telling us that everything is fine when we can see in our day-to-day lives that is not true. People did not support Biden because people saw that Biden was a continuation of the same policies that gave us Trump the first time. And then Harris said that she would not have changed a single thing that occurred under Biden. She was a continuation of old white male policies. And any other woman that runs in the future on that same platform will lose regardless of gender regardless of race. Anyone mentioning race or gender is weaponizing race and gender as a political tool

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    3 days ago

    The country is not ready for a president with intelligence, integrity, morals, empathy or even a bit of humanity.

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    Probably because the US is such a religious conservative country. Christianity (especially evangelical and more conservative type), patriarchy and authoritarianism go together, and that’s who the great majority of his voters were.

    Considering trump won twice against women but lost when he ran against a man, it seems the majority of voters would rather elect any man than any woman, even if that man is seriously flawed on every imaginable level. Only when both candidates were men were factors other than gender given more weight.

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    It’s pretty telling how easily liberals give up on their supposed ambitions even when the effort was obviously flawed.