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      Reagan fired the air traffic controllers without bothering to think that through, and aviation in the USA is still suffering the after-effects of that as the workers that were trained up to fill those gaps now all retire at the same time. I don’t doubt the Republicans would make the same mistake twice, especially given that these ones are far stupider than Reagan’s people.

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        Probably harder to fill this time. It’s a hell of a lot easier to be an ICE scab than an ATC scab.

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        The airline industry is much bigger now. More flights happening.

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          It’s actually not the boomers who elected Reagan. It was their parents and the generation that immediately followed them. Boomers, that is the actual baby boom generation (born 1946 to 1955), voted overwhelmingly against Reagan.

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            Doesn’t stop them from sucking his cadaverific cock nowadays though, frankly if they had come out swinging against him more aggressively there wouldn’t have been nearly as many issues nowadays.

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            My parents were boomers and they (and all their boomer friends) fucking hated Ronnie Raygun. It definitely was not all boomers.

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              The most-important 2 books on understanding US politics, is Woodard’s “American Nations”, on the 11 nations inhabiting North America, & how they are stable, once instantiated,

              & Thom Hartmann’s “Screwed”, on what real national-prosperity is ( I’ve only read the beginning of that, & it’s the 1st-time I’ve understood what’s wrong with normal “economics”, as presented by everybody else ).

              IF one looks carefully, as Woodard did, one can see that the votes follow specific counties that are culturally-aligned, in these 11 nations.

              It isn’t “all boomers”, rather, it is in the Tidewater region, votes went this-way, in the New York region, votes went that way, in Yankeedom, they went this other way, etc…

              The book “The Big Sort” is on how polarization is self-creating the ultimate only-political-monocultures US of A.

              That, of course, is going to make the US’s Civil War Part2 be … more territorial in its ideological-basis, … ( & that has implications, too ), but … it’s still down to regional-cultures defining/controlling the US’s fate.

              Woodard’s book is sooo important, that I wouldn’t consider moving anywhere in North America without seeing which culture was ruling that county, now.

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        Still cant take orders successfully at drive throughs, much less do one of the most dangerous, dynamic, and complicated jobs known to humanity.

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          It’s been proven to work for robo-fighters ( air-superiority fighters ), in simulations ( they had a competition between fighter-AI’s, & 1 of them did win, & the fights were proper, the way human fighter-pilots would have done them ).

          Narrow-context AI works: it’s the deep-vast context AI that doesn’t work…

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    Unpaid work is slavery, every single air traffic controller should just walk away.

    Watching the US aviation industry collapse as a result would be endlessly amusing.

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      Reagan did it in 1981 and it didn’t cause a collapse. 11000 air traffic controllers went on strike and Reagan fired all of them. This is arguably what started the decline of unions in the US.

      It was fucked up then, and it would be even more fucked up now, but in reality the industry would move on pretty quickly. Hopefully the people would rise up in response, but I’m not holding my breath.

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        It nearly did cause a collapse and the industry has never recovered. ATC has been a critically understaffed industry since before you were born.

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        The people “rose up” during BLM protests for over a year in the streets. Systematic change? Nope. Black people any safer now? Nope. All those protests did was hold exactly ONE fucking cop accountable. That’s it. We’re fucked and I hate saying that. Still going to do my part, but it’s like the ship has been sinking since before I was even born…

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          We aren’t fucked until we’re dead, my friend. Fight until the end. Never make it easy for them.

          Write on every inch of the toilet paper. They can’t have that. It’s ours.

          “It’s small and it’s fragile and it’s the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from us”

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    Demanding slave labor by threatening to loose you from your master if you refuse to cooperate is a strange take.

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    Hahahaha ok. Tell that to any employment lawyer.

    That is called alavery, or indentured servitude at best. Kinda frowned upon.

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        Seriously, most people still have no idea how evil Reagan really was. He did a lot of damage to this country that led to the situation we are in now.

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          Reagan was just following the well trodden path that Jackson and Wilson blazed, and Nixon trimmed the edges.

          The only reason that I put Jackson into a tie with Wilson for worst president is that Wilson did far more long term damage, but Jackson orchestrated The Trail of Tears, and several other genocides, as well as paid off the national debt entirely. This helped contribute to the longest and deepest (by percentage, not dollar amount) depression the country has ever seen.

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          Regan’s lawyers that were pissed he couldn’t do what he wanted were involved in 2000’s election bullshit and are currently sitting on the supreme court

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        Reagan was a monstrous piece of shit but even a lot of dems love him. I suppose because a lot of dems are now to the right of 80s republicans.

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    Lol go ahead and fire them. That will definately help the shortage of controllers!

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    Yeah because the US is just swarming with qualified air traffic controllers hoping to get to work in their place if they’re fired. /s 🙄

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    Because firing the controllers worked so amazingly well when Regan did it…

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      And when Elon did it. It was only a few months ago when there were reports of one lonesome controller being in charge of enough air space that at least four were required. And after all of that they now aren’t getting paid, with this fucktard saying if they decide not to turn up to unpaid work THEY’RE jeopardising all air traffic. No asshole, the GOP are the ones shutting it down.

      I’m not too familiar with the backwards labour laws in the US, but for a place that only worships the Almighty Dollar, surely you can’t get fired for not performing unpaid work.

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    Go ahead do it.

    Controllers, unionize while fired, what are they going to do, there’s already a shortage when you aren’t union

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    Any politician making decisions to not pay working citizens shall be expired

  • Step 1: Fire ATC

    Step 2: Rubber stamp plane manufacturing safety checks

    Step 3: ATC messes up due to shortage

    Step 4: TCAS fails because it never got checked

    Step 5: 🛩💥✈️

    Step 6: Blame “ANTIFA Terrorist”

    Step 7: Martial Law

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    Truly one of the highest stress, lowest appreciation, skill-based professions on the planet. What have we become?

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    Ah yes, my employer is playing this game as well. Recently after a decade of working loyally for my company, they decided to insult everyone in my department.

    We’re an important department.

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    oh no what will they do without all that non existent money. Bet they are super worried about getting work with their hyper specific skill set that fewer and fewer people are able to perform

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      That’s what I can’t understand:

      Isn’t there a law that slavery isn’t legal, in the US of A?

      Isn’t mandatory unpaid job-work … slavery?

      WTF’s wrong with the idiotic laws they’ve had all these years?

      You HAVE TO have a law prohibiting slavery, in any guise!

      This doesn’t compute, for me…

      The anti-integrity of a legal-regime which protects such abuse … can’t compute.

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