The arrested man identified himself as a combat veteran and said he was burning the American flag in protest of an executive order Trump signed Monday targeting flag burning.
Good for these people, make them charge you, make them have a grand jury charge you.
A grand jury won’t bring charges on sandwich guy and they won’t on this either.
The fucking boy scouts burn flags, American flags.
Y’all want to burn some flags in DC this Monday? I’m game
It’s not illegal to burn the flag. Any flag.
And executive orders are not laws.
More confederates should have had their heads blown off instead of lukewarm acceptance back into the union
The files ARE the distraction
Trump rapes children.
I don’t understand how these commenters don’t realize that. We already know he’s in them, we already know he raped children, we already know they won’t release any evidence of that willingly… What are they hoping to accomplish?
It’s time to go out in the streets and demand his head in a basket, but they’re insisting on simply asking him to release the evidence of his guilt instead of being angry at every new power consolidation move.
This comment is missing the magic technology called “both”.
Damn, that’s crazy! If only it didn’t literally dismiss it as less important.
To be fair, I got enough anger for the man that I can I be both wanting the list released and being pissed at all the bullshit he does.
I only add it as a reminder to his supporters (they have short term memory issues). Doesn’t mean that we aren’t upset about EVERYTHING else. And it doesn’t mean I’m only doing this one thing. Some of us have been resisting most of our lives.
It’s not a reminder, it’s literally dismissing this as a distraction. Damn, that’s crazy, anyway let me focus on the files I know won’t be released…
I fail to see the dismissal.
The first line of the image literally acknowledges the abnormality.
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Where can I contribute to the legal fund?
Guy was already released actually
The wrongful arrest lawsuit is just as important. It needs to be highlighted that Executive Orders do not create arrestable lawsuit.
Trunp and Magats are such effing snowflakes they need a safe space.
Like prison?
That was fast, good on that guy. Will this be a watershed moment when his infernal majesty’s decrees are challenged?
Y’all know this is just so they can replay clips of their “opposition” burning flags on Fox News. To vilify more people is the only goal here.
Funny. I can’t wait to fight a civil war against Fox News viewers. So we can be done with their genes. Not like the Jazzy militia will have any capabilities.
Many U.S. veterans I know support the right of freedom of expression, to include flag burning. They say they feel its disrespectful but its the right they bleed for, for people to express themselves
I remember a case where this singer burnt an american flag in protest (I think korean war) and the president was grilled on his take on the matter and he daid that whats beautiful about our country, that we can do these things, and that im the countries we are fighting agianst thier citizens dont have the same freedoms as americans.
If you aren’t for freedom of speech when its an expression you don’t agree with, you aren’t for freedom of speech.
People forget that freedom of speech also includes the discourse of hate
Hey, it’s cool that some of them understand the law, but… also, I don’t think veterans have any special privilege or insight into how our freedoms work.
I don’t think any of us need their permission to exercise our rights. I don’t think that’s what you were going for, but I’m just saying this because so much of the discussion often seems to go to what “the troops” think about it. It just doesn’t matter.
I was bringing it up half out of people tending to use veterans and soldiers as justification for “cracking down” on things like flag burning, saying how it disrespects our troops or something. When 1) as you say, thier opinion doesn’t matter and 2) They also aren’t as offended as republicans say they are.
It’s my first amendment right to call the troops babykillers and to thank their Jodies for their service. And if someone wants the government to stop me then they’re anti American. The first amendment is especially for the right to criticize and mock the government and her agents.
Fair enough. Also, I should not have had that last sentence worded that way. I should have said that their opinion does not matter more than the opinions of non-veterans, IMHO. Being Americans, their opinion does matter as much as any other, but still the law is the law and unless the unhinged cons get an amendment, freedom should still be a thing…even on something like burning a flag.
This ends with blood in the streets. We just need to decide whose blood.
I have some thoughts on that:
Is this a picture of the last guillotine execution in France during the 70s?
I don’t actually know, but good question! I pulled it from Pinterest:
https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/508414245428023265/
Don’t judge me.
Were you…possibly
Were you…
Were you looking up Guillotine ideas on Pinterest?
Isn’t everyone these days?
It will be the poors blood
Jeez. It’s… Too perfect.
Good on him. I was thinking about doing that myself but I don’t live near DC.
So I get that the act of burning the flag is protected speech, but surely the act of setting a fire on public property is a crime regardless?
I would think burning flags is only ok on a place where burning other things is ok.
No more birthday candles allowed in glorious free USA.
That’s a pretty bad faith comment. The video of the incident showed the person pouring accelerant on a flag on the ground and starting a decent sized fire.
I support the flag burning, but I think that there is a better way to do it than pouring gas on the sidewalk and lighting it up. Doing in a metal container would be much more responsible.
Did the fire spread to anything else and cause damage
Come on dude, that’s another bad faith argument. The legality of setting fire to things is not determined after the fact.
You’re better than this. Try to put more thought into your comments.
He did it on pavement, dropped the flag onto pavement, and kept a safe distance. There was no danger of it spreading to anything else flammable
It’s about what is legal and what is not legal.
It’s not legal to set fire on the sidewalk. Everyone accepts that to be true and a pretty good law.
Burning flags in general is legal, most people accept that to be true and think that it’s a pretty good law.
When you do something illegal, while doing something legal, in order to prove that the second thing was legal. You muddy the waters and give ammunition to people who want the second thing to be illegal.
Or maybe stop apologizing for cruel dictators. They don’t need your help, so don’t help them. This “to be fair” and “decorum” crap has gotten us to a point where children are being kidnapped and raped without consequence, and free speech has been eliminated. I know you aren’t trying to be part of the problem, but I’m here to tell you that you absolutely, unequivocally, are part of the problem.
Yeaaa, that’s pretty off base. You’re moving the goalposts. I just said it’s a crime to set fire to things on the sidewalk in a public and mentioned that it would be more responsible to do it with a metal bin or something.
All of this “apologizing for cruel dictators” “you are part of the problem” bullshit is nonsense bad faith strawman argument. You were looking for someone to fight with and went after me because it suits you to do so.
Picking fights like this with random people who agree with 98% of what you think because 2% of their opinions are different yours, is a right wingers wet dream. They love that you are doing this. They love that you would take time out of your day to attack your allies and further fracture resistance.
Just wanted to pop in to say all of this "master debater"ese is bullshit and people should stop taking those who endlessly rattle on about “goal posts” and logical fallacies seriously.
This isn’t fucking debate club nor is it Ben Shapiro.
I doubt anyone’s mind has ever been changed a single iota by this type of talk, and I find it pointless at best and fascist apologia at worst.
Yes, the way to push him on this would be to very publicly burn a flag in a manner that is perfectly legal otherwise. Find an official fire pit or BBQ in a public park. Scorching the sidewalk with gasoline is only going to give them an easy win when they charge you for “defacing public property,” creating a danger to the public, or even arson.
I’m glad at least one person understands the point that I made. If you’re going to have a showdown with an unjust law, don’t give your enemy easy ways to twist your actions into something that they are not. It should be legal to burn anything you don’t like - as long as you respect the normal rules about burning things in general. Fire isn’t something to fuck around with, and the laws about not burning things on the street are good laws.
