• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    I mean we have talked about this before. But for everyone else in the class i am talking about everything. Remember i was the guy you argued with about forcing progressive policy with conditional voting. You don’t get that by voting blue no matter who.

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        I mean. I see You as part of the problem. You have no answer to the rightward ratchet. And so i can only conclude that democrats rightward drift is not a bug to you it’s a feature and if that’s the case, i don’t rate your opinion very highly

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            I mean, you can admit that you don’t align with progressive policy and are a ‘the market will provide’ liberal. And i would just have to accept that.

            But for some bizarre reason you just outright deny the rightward drift is even happening. Which was the incorrect play here. You can argue policy, you can’t argue facts.

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              The reason why a rightward drift is happening is because the right is better organized, have more judges in every level of the courts including SCOTUS and control every level of the government.

              Not because of your rightward ratchet device.

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                We are not talking about the center or the republicans rightward drift. These are enabled by the democratic parties rightward drift

                Your argument is to arrest the right ward drift by voting in centrist democrats… and they would push progressive policy against their own goals because why again?

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                    And there we have it, the smoking gun. That’s the argument you should have started with, its the much more defensible position. But again it doesn’t mean that Biden had a snowballs chance in hell. Nor does this justify blaming disenfranchised voters for losing. Because however large the liberal block is, its obviously much much smaller then the republicans voter base. And it frames your blaming the progressives as a shaming tactic or a scare tactic depending on how close the next election is. And it also vindicated my position for getting progressive policy, seeing as that is now your stated goal to defeat.