I mean, you can admit that you don’t align with progressive policy and are a ‘the market will provide’ liberal. And i would just have to accept that.
But for some bizarre reason you just outright deny the rightward drift is even happening. Which was the incorrect play here. You can argue policy, you can’t argue facts.
The reason why a rightward drift is happening is because the right is better organized, have more judges in every level of the courts including SCOTUS and control every level of the government.
We are not talking about the center or the republicans rightward drift. These are enabled by the democratic parties rightward drift
Your argument is to arrest the right ward drift by voting in centrist democrats… and they would push progressive policy against their own goals because why again?
And there we have it, the smoking gun. That’s the argument you should have started with, its the much more defensible position. But again it doesn’t mean that Biden had a snowballs chance in hell. Nor does this justify blaming disenfranchised voters for losing. Because however large the liberal block is, its obviously much much smaller then the republicans voter base. And it frames your blaming the progressives as a shaming tactic or a scare tactic depending on how close the next election is. And it also vindicated my position for getting progressive policy, seeing as that is now your stated goal to defeat.
Pointing out the progressive’s lack of organizing or that liberals represent more of the country doesn’t mean I’ve stated that I want to defeat progressive policy.
In fact the only one who has said that is you so I don’t know what you’re doing here besides trying to discredit me.
If that’s the case then you should be on-bord with the democrats parleying with the progressives to secure the win. You must have SOME progressive policy you can at least stomach that you would demand the Democratic Party fork over. But after what the democrats did after the election, it better very very tempting.
The progressives need to parlay with the progressives first to come up with some demands because right now it’s a thousand different groups with two thousand different demands and every person have a different red line.
The rightward ratchet is just another cliché designed to fit nicely into your biases and end all thought after that.
I mean, you can admit that you don’t align with progressive policy and are a ‘the market will provide’ liberal. And i would just have to accept that.
But for some bizarre reason you just outright deny the rightward drift is even happening. Which was the incorrect play here. You can argue policy, you can’t argue facts.
The reason why a rightward drift is happening is because the right is better organized, have more judges in every level of the courts including SCOTUS and control every level of the government.
Not because of your rightward ratchet device.
We are not talking about the center or the republicans rightward drift. These are enabled by the democratic parties rightward drift
Your argument is to arrest the right ward drift by voting in centrist democrats… and they would push progressive policy against their own goals because why again?
I think that liberals represent more of the country than the far right or the progressives.
And there we have it, the smoking gun. That’s the argument you should have started with, its the much more defensible position. But again it doesn’t mean that Biden had a snowballs chance in hell. Nor does this justify blaming disenfranchised voters for losing. Because however large the liberal block is, its obviously much much smaller then the republicans voter base. And it frames your blaming the progressives as a shaming tactic or a scare tactic depending on how close the next election is. And it also vindicated my position for getting progressive policy, seeing as that is now your stated goal to defeat.
Pointing out the progressive’s lack of organizing or that liberals represent more of the country doesn’t mean I’ve stated that I want to defeat progressive policy.
In fact the only one who has said that is you so I don’t know what you’re doing here besides trying to discredit me.
If that’s the case then you should be on-bord with the democrats parleying with the progressives to secure the win. You must have SOME progressive policy you can at least stomach that you would demand the Democratic Party fork over. But after what the democrats did after the election, it better very very tempting.
The progressives need to parlay with the progressives first to come up with some demands because right now it’s a thousand different groups with two thousand different demands and every person have a different red line.