• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    We are not talking about the center or the republicans rightward drift. These are enabled by the democratic parties rightward drift

    Your argument is to arrest the right ward drift by voting in centrist democrats… and they would push progressive policy against their own goals because why again?

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        And there we have it, the smoking gun. That’s the argument you should have started with, its the much more defensible position. But again it doesn’t mean that Biden had a snowballs chance in hell. Nor does this justify blaming disenfranchised voters for losing. Because however large the liberal block is, its obviously much much smaller then the republicans voter base. And it frames your blaming the progressives as a shaming tactic or a scare tactic depending on how close the next election is. And it also vindicated my position for getting progressive policy, seeing as that is now your stated goal to defeat.

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          Pointing out the progressive’s lack of organizing or that liberals represent more of the country doesn’t mean I’ve stated that I want to defeat progressive policy.

          In fact the only one who has said that is you so I don’t know what you’re doing here besides trying to discredit me.

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            If that’s the case then you should be on-bord with the democrats parleying with the progressives to secure the win. You must have SOME progressive policy you can at least stomach that you would demand the Democratic Party fork over. But after what the democrats did after the election, it better very very tempting.

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              The progressives need to parlay with the progressives first to come up with some demands because right now it’s a thousand different groups with two thousand different demands and every person have a different red line.

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                Progressive policy is already known. As a matter of fact the Democratic Party publicly lambasted specific progressive policy after the election. It was one of the things that alienated me AFTER the election. If they blame progressives for costing them the election, then proclaim they will no longer fight for progressive policy, i don’t know what to tell you, but i ain’t interested.