An American citizen born and raised in California is unsettled after receiving an e-mail from the US Department of Homeland Security ordering him to leave the country “immediately.”
Aldo Martinez-Gomez received the DHS notice on April 11, threatening “criminal prosecution” and fines if he does not depart within seven days.
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Martinez-Gomez works full-time assisting immigrants in court for a non-profit and believes his advocacy work may have placed him on the government’s radar.
Where are they getting these emails from? I don’t mean where they are sent from, but the email addresses? Do US citizens share their email with the government?
Do you file taxes online?
I thought most Americans did it through a third party online or a service. Is there a place to put an email? Is it required? Do people actually do it?
You login using your email or your phone number. When you sign up to the IRS system you use your email. They have it. in this case its probably due to him helping folks with their immigration status and a distinct lack of intelligence when harvesting information. After all these are some of the lowest IQ fascists ever.
Martinez-Gomez works full-time assisting immigrants in court for a non-profit
This is quite the Hanlon’s Razor situation.
There have been a number of US citizens who have received these emails, all of them do some kind of work related to immigration. It’s pretty clear that whoever sent out these emails just collected every email related to immigration work, and sent out a mass email. That satisfies Hanlon’s Razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
But! The fact that they’re doing this without even a passing effort at accuracy, with no concern about getting it wrong, shows how it’s motivated by malice too. It’s the ICE version of a reckless homicide, they’re doing something they have to know would normally get them fired if not charged. But, they don’t care because the current racist administration is going to revel in the pain.
So, it’s a weird situation where Hanlon’s Razor is both right and wrong.
The problem with “they’re just incompetent”, is that it let’s malicious people feign stupidity. And if it is a combination, it doesn’t matter which aspects are one or the other. They are dangerous all the same and shouldn’t be allowed to continue hurting people. But a combination of apathy, indoctrination, and infiltration means they’ll likely never see any real consequences. Or if they do, they were likely expendable and their excision doesn’t accomplish anything. People need to, at a minimum, vote. And preferably get more involved. Organize. Start local.
It may let malicious people feign stupidity, but that doesn’t mean you have to just forgive them.
Basically you’re saying, attribute the email to stupidity; attribute the stupidity to malice.
I think anybody who wasn’t malicious would be very careful about this process. They would know that a mistake was possible and that they should triple-check everything they were doing. So, it’s more that the stupidity is the evidence for the malice. That, and the fact that there wasn’t a massive apology and attempt to correct the mistake when these news stories started coming out.
Anybody who wasn’t malicious would be very careful
well. I mean, no. They could just be stupid.
People often forget with Hanlon’s Razor that stupidity is evil, and that evil is not always malicious.
Please explain why stupidity is evil.
I guess I shouldn’t have been so black and white. It depends on your definition of stupidity, and I suppose your understanding of evil - to an extent.
Ignorance is not stupidity, for one thing. A lack of knowledge is, in no way, indicative of an inability to gain it. Nor is it indicative of an individual’s desire to gain knowledge.
If I were to define a stupid decision, it would be a decision made without any thought for the consequences. Littering, for example, is stupid. Depending on what you’re littering, it is also evil. Littering paper? Yeah ok, as long as it isn’t heavily laminated it’s just going to decompose. Littering plastic? Metal cans (lined with plastic, but the metal itself is also bad)? It’s a decision made where the benefit is so small compared to the negatives that you might as well shoot yourself in the foot.
The stupid person doesn’t consider this, though. They don’t care that their roads are littered with trash, plastic strewn amongst fields - poisoning the earth and waterways with chemicals possessing adjectives like forever. They don’t care that they live in an ever deepening landfill. They just throw it out the window and forget about it. They look at the next species to go extinct and push the thought out of their mind.
This, to me, is evil. This is probably the least evil example of stupidity that I can think of. There are more but, truth be told, I don’t really like thinking about stupid people. They tend to make me angry.
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“Criminal prosecution” requires a system of law. However the lawless dictator that overthrew the throne has no intention of acknowledging that there is a system of law in place that doesn’t benefit him directly.
So, this could end poorly.
the lawless dictator that overthrew the throne
Beginning to wonder why we have a throne to begin with.
We don’t. It was sarcasm.
This is why they aren’t allowing due process, which would expose many more “mistakes”. There’s likely many more who were already sent to the El Salvador concentration camp than just Kilmar Abrego Garcia. For example, this poor guy. How many more?! 😠
This is why I said, the first time it happened with that immigration lawyer, she should have immediately brought it to a judge.
This will keep happening until there’s some kind of court action.
And then it’ll just keep happening because there is zero enforcement.
These aren’t mistakes. The cheeseburger Gestapo are coming.
Yup. They are seeing how many people they can disappear without anyone noticing
Fuck these fixing incompetent fascist.
Honestly as a American born Asian American, I’m just wondering when this will be happening to me.
Same. I was telling my wife I’m legitimately afraid to be walking around by myself now. I used to feel safe wherever I went and now I am always looking over my shoulder or scoping things out before I get out of my car…just to get groceries or something.
This is fucked.
Yup. I’ve told my wife that when they do come, I’m not one to go quietly.
Remember that 2A is for everyone, pepper spray is legal, and check your knife laws and your 1st amendment right to protest is still a thing.
I actually just got one of those relica practice pistols that uses CO2 cartridges to shoot pepper balls at up to 350fps.
It’s non-lethal, but it’ll still hurt a bit.
The point of the pepperball gun being? You know they’ll shoot you dead when they spot it, right?
Might as well be carrying the real thing instead.
Fair, but I don’t have a CC permit and this is technically legal for me to carry. If real agents show up, I’m fucked regardless. But if wannabe white supremacists in my area want to play gravy seals, it will do just fine.
Maybe you should try to move to Canada.
I’m working on it. Family isn’t having it, but they’re coming around slowly with each passing hellish day.
I’m also waiting for my passport renewal. Fingers crossed.
Good luck, stay safe!
First they came for the …
Doesn’t matter when.
It will.
Unless you and everyone else start to speak up for the others.
speak up? how about get armed and coordinated?
First saw this pop up on LA local news IG account, knew something was up with all the trolling responses dominating. There’s really no way to even report fake/suspiscious accounts over there. Very glad/relieved to see rational comments here.
If I were a judge, him using “I’m not trying to be…” would be all the evidence I’d need to prove he’s an American citizen. They must think I’m Boo Boo the Fool if they deport that man.
