An American citizen born and raised in California is unsettled after receiving an e-mail from the US Department of Homeland Security ordering him to leave the country “immediately.”

Aldo Martinez-Gomez received the DHS notice on April 11, threatening “criminal prosecution” and fines if he does not depart within seven days.

Martinez-Gomez works full-time assisting immigrants in court for a non-profit and believes his advocacy work may have placed him on the government’s radar.

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    Martinez-Gomez works full-time assisting immigrants in court for a non-profit

    This is quite the Hanlon’s Razor situation.

    There have been a number of US citizens who have received these emails, all of them do some kind of work related to immigration. It’s pretty clear that whoever sent out these emails just collected every email related to immigration work, and sent out a mass email. That satisfies Hanlon’s Razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

    But! The fact that they’re doing this without even a passing effort at accuracy, with no concern about getting it wrong, shows how it’s motivated by malice too. It’s the ICE version of a reckless homicide, they’re doing something they have to know would normally get them fired if not charged. But, they don’t care because the current racist administration is going to revel in the pain.

    So, it’s a weird situation where Hanlon’s Razor is both right and wrong.

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      The problem with “they’re just incompetent”, is that it let’s malicious people feign stupidity. And if it is a combination, it doesn’t matter which aspects are one or the other. They are dangerous all the same and shouldn’t be allowed to continue hurting people. But a combination of apathy, indoctrination, and infiltration means they’ll likely never see any real consequences. Or if they do, they were likely expendable and their excision doesn’t accomplish anything. People need to, at a minimum, vote. And preferably get more involved. Organize. Start local.

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        It may let malicious people feign stupidity, but that doesn’t mean you have to just forgive them.

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      Basically you’re saying, attribute the email to stupidity; attribute the stupidity to malice.

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        I think anybody who wasn’t malicious would be very careful about this process. They would know that a mistake was possible and that they should triple-check everything they were doing. So, it’s more that the stupidity is the evidence for the malice. That, and the fact that there wasn’t a massive apology and attempt to correct the mistake when these news stories started coming out.

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          Anybody who wasn’t malicious would be very careful

          well. I mean, no. They could just be stupid.

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        People often forget with Hanlon’s Razor that stupidity is evil, and that evil is not always malicious.

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            I guess I shouldn’t have been so black and white. It depends on your definition of stupidity, and I suppose your understanding of evil - to an extent.

            Ignorance is not stupidity, for one thing. A lack of knowledge is, in no way, indicative of an inability to gain it. Nor is it indicative of an individual’s desire to gain knowledge.

            If I were to define a stupid decision, it would be a decision made without any thought for the consequences. Littering, for example, is stupid. Depending on what you’re littering, it is also evil. Littering paper? Yeah ok, as long as it isn’t heavily laminated it’s just going to decompose. Littering plastic? Metal cans (lined with plastic, but the metal itself is also bad)? It’s a decision made where the benefit is so small compared to the negatives that you might as well shoot yourself in the foot.

            The stupid person doesn’t consider this, though. They don’t care that their roads are littered with trash, plastic strewn amongst fields - poisoning the earth and waterways with chemicals possessing adjectives like forever. They don’t care that they live in an ever deepening landfill. They just throw it out the window and forget about it. They look at the next species to go extinct and push the thought out of their mind.

            This, to me, is evil. This is probably the least evil example of stupidity that I can think of. There are more but, truth be told, I don’t really like thinking about stupid people. They tend to make me angry.

            Edit: I did not downvote you, by the way.