Summary
Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) introduced the Returning Education to Our States Act, aiming to abolish the U.S. Department of Education, a long-time Republican goal aligned with Trump’s agenda.
The bill proposes redistributing the department’s $200 billion budget and responsibilities to other federal agencies and states, such as shifting federal student loans to the Treasury.
Critics warn this could undermine protections for students with disabilities and marginalized groups.
While the bill faces significant political hurdles, it reflects broader GOP efforts to reduce federal influence over education policy.
Any bets on how far US will fall in global rankings? I am guessing maybe two or three places in the next five years
Why do some people think that smart immigrants would want to come to the US if the general population is hard to deal with? What part of quality of life do they not understand?
Okay, let’s take some prosaic examples.
— H1-B visa man goes to a restaurant. Restaurant staff are racists, QOL degrades, H1-B visa man rethinks staying long term in the U.S.
— H1-B visa man enrolls children in private school. Private school staff is religious fundies, and education at a public level would be cheaper and better in another country. QOL degrades, H1-B visa man decides to move from the U.S.
For most skilled immigrants the calculus is based around money and what they get out of it, you shouldn’t expect there’s any intrinsic worth to staying in the U.S. if standards are shit and qualify of life degrades.
So in simple terms, you’ll have dumber people on average in house and smarter people on average in other countries.
Trump (and Republicans) love the poorly educated. This is all part of their plan to keep people stupid so they’re easily manipulated, thus keeping the GOP in power.
This is the chance for one underpaid government tech worker to delete the wrong folder in the transfer and erase the debt
well, duh. it’s the natural progression of the gops war on education theyve been waging since the 60s. turns out it’s way easier to get people to vote for you if you master propaganda and refuse to teach people critical thought.
Ahh, the ate-too-much-lead-as-a-child-mental-illness-party strikes again
Traitors, all of them.
Ok yes I’m concerned about marginalized and disabled students, but I’m mostly concerned about Americans being too damn dumb already
Duh. That’s because :
“The federal Department of Education has never educated a single student, and it’s long past time to end this bureaucratic department that causes more harm than good,” Rounds said
/s
10 mins later: Mississippi is introducing a mandated co-op middle and high school. Where students only need to be in class 2 days a week and get hands on experience in desirable fields such as farming/agriculture. You just have to work 2 days a week to make sure you get your credits to get to the next grade!
Don’t read up on “no child left behind” then, it’s been a huge reason a ton of kids are basically illiterate. Our dept of education doesn’t need to be abolished, it needs to be properly funded, so more schools can be built and teachers can be paid more with smaller class sizes.
I know all about it. 35. So it came into law when I was 11.
Well TBH there needs to be more classes on basic skills… I mean knowing about history is nice, but I would have appreciated more classes on wood working, plumbing, tax preparation, and basic vehicle maintenance.
Then figure out what you want and go to a trade school. Where do you live (state). Even Tennessee will pay for that if you live there. Trade schools were promoted by Obama when he tried to figure out free education. Yet the majority of voters faught it. That isn’t the majority of people, it just means people like you, who want trade school made as an investment for the future was chopped short. But it doesn’t mean it’s over. Talk to your city, , county, state they may have people you can call for assistance. Often times, it’s either the Catholic Church or government. Either doesn’t matter. The Catholics won’t require you to attend church or pledge some shit, they just want to know you fit their wage requirements to help as many people as possible.
It shouldn’t have to be in trade school though
These people are just such pieces of shit. They truly want to destroy this country and give a decisive lead to the likes of China.
Letting states like Texas run rampant with teaching total bullshit like creationism without any restraint whatsoever is going to further down this country and we might as well cede all advances to other countries.
Let’s think this through… The US Department of Education’s functions are primarily:
- Establishing policies on federal financial aid for education and distributing as well as monitoring those funds.
- Collecting data on America’s schools and disseminating research.
- Focusing national attention on key educational issues.
- Prohibiting discrimination and ensuring equal access to education.
(Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education)
Regarding #1, blue states don’t receive nearly as much in financial aid for schools as red states. So abolishing the DOE will reduce the tax burden on citizens living in blue states, at the expense of schools in red states.
Regarding #2, without the DOE compiling this information, it will be up to schools themselves and private research organizations. Badly-performing, severely under-funded schools in red states will, of course, not be able to. Not that they would want to anyway, because without federal assistance, these schools will be in a state of collapse.
Regarding #3, blue states will just focus attention on key educational issues for themselves, while red states focus on fixing their problems by getting bibles into classrooms.
Regarding #4, red states will rapidly descend into systematic discrimination again.
End result: No one will want to hire “graduates” from red states.
This is a self-own of astonishing proportions. The blue states that don’t heavily depend on the DOE will manage, while the educational infrastructure in the red states completely falls apart. And businesses in need of skilled employees who can, y’know, read will recruit primarily in blue states.
And the leopards will roam freely through the streets of MAGA-America, feasting on faces in unprecedented numbers.
As a teacher, I have a really strong aversion to framing this as a simple battle between states.
What you’re talking about may well come to pass, but in reality what it means is that an entire generation of children in poor states – through no fault of their own, but solely because of the geography of their birth – will be woefully undereducated and therefore not competitive in the university admissions process or the job market.
Whatever face-feasting-leopard karma we think the adults who voted for Republicans might deserve, their children should have the right to a proper education rather than be saddled with a legacy of poverty and ignorance. And in your scenario it’s apparently going to be up to the blue states to care enough about these kids to help ensure their rights.
And the leopards will roam freely through the streets of MAGA-America, feasting on faces in unprecedented numbers.
Yeah, but those that were dumbed down by this system will be more numerous and will vote for qons even harder, dragging all of us down with them.
Like the other commenter said, they don’t care about their populous except to remain uneducated and easily controllable, solidifying their conservative control. They’ll bribe the highly educated to come in and lead their industries. Look at any third world country, it’s not their ‘poors’ leading industries, it’s global or foreign experts helping them scrape every drop of wealth from their local communities and environment.
fuck every republican who voted for this.
Republicans are, in fact, fucking you. Because all you do is complain online like all the other democrats.
We lost to an orange rapist criminal because losers like you don’t protest with guns, and just finger waggle until the cops break it up.
Grow some balls like the Black Panther party and buy a fucking gun and protest peacefully or continue arguing from your basement while Republicans gut our programs that help the disenfranchised without consequences.
Clear the way for more educated states to populate our best universities and create a generational gap in education and idiocy then. Morons.
Just keep going with that logic and defunding every public service and let them separate every state until they all become 50 small autonomous countries.
Red states are about to find out how much they depend on blue state money.
I’ve seen GOP Voters on a local news app talking about how they can’t wait to see what happens when “California and New York stop asking other states and Big Daddy Government for hand outs!”
And I had to sit down and say “Oh my sweet summer child”
California is the 5th Largest and Most Powerful Economy in the world lol
Putin would love nothing more than for that to happen.
