Summary
During a heated Oval Office meeting, Trump berated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
Trump repeatedly cut Zelenskiy off, accused him of lacking gratitude, and defended Russian President Vladimir Putin. He also ranted about past U.S. elections and personal grievances.
Following the meeting, Trump posted on Truth Social, claiming Zelenskiy “is not ready for peace.”
The U.S. and Russia recently held talks without Ukraine, raising concerns over sidelining Kyiv in negotiations.
Just when you thought you couldn’t get any more embarrassed being an American.
This is a great window into how Trump, Vance and MAGA do business.
Bully. Yell. Lie. Threaten.
The White House posted an edited video, so what we all saw and heard must not be real. They also just pulled infrastructure repair funding from Ukraine, and took Russia off of the cybersecurity threat list under the radar.
Every member of Congress that stands behind this is complicit as well.
Traitors. Every single republican voter is traitor filth. And should be treated as such.
Tyrants is a better title for them, technically John Brown was a traitor and I’d rather not lump them in with ol’ John Brown.
Plus then we can say Sic Semper Tyrannis, which implies that they will inevitably fail. Traitors can thrive, tyrants cant
If you thought you couldn’t be more embarrassed, you must’ve not looked at the calendar. We’re only
two months intoin the second month of this shit.I know Europeans hate us Americans and I understand why. I’ve never supported Trump and have fought with my dollar, vote, and time, but I am just too ashamed to show my face in the EU any time soon.
As a person from Europe living in Canada, I’d say it’s not that we hate Americans, we know there are lots of nice people there and a good chunk of you hate Trump as much as we do. But unfortunately we just kind of have to treat America the country as a hostile nation right now. Given that the US government is directly threatening Canada and actively betraying Europe, there’s not much choice. It just is what it is.
Disclaimer: I don’t speak for all Canadians and Europeans obviously, there are some Trumpy people in Canada and Europe too for some fucking reason. But amongst the people I’ve spoken to about it, that seems to be the general vibe.
You should absolutely be treating the US government as a hostile entity. Many Americans are also treating it as such, and are organizing emergency preparations (mainly go-bags) for things like martial law, civil war, and being targeted as a result of belonging to a prohibited minority group. You should take the US government’s threats seriously. We are.
And the scariest part is they broadcast it all live and commented that it would make “great television”. These are hateful people that have absolutely no shame. They’re proud they bullied, threatened, yelled at, and lied to an ally in service of a traditional enemy.
He’s so clearly a Russian agent.
What a fucking troglodyte. Immagine being the leader of another country and having your country invaded and some feckless moron you went to for help (because the guy that invaded you is their fuckin’ enemy) and he tells you that you should be “happy” to give away the majority of your countries natural resources for help from them.
It’s just beyond mentally retarded. There’s not a spec of intelligence to be seen–and MAGA is going to eat this giant turd like “lol daddy Trump doesn’t take any shit!!!” like are you fucking kidding me?
He’s being a bully. It’s like if your kid was getting his ass beat every day at school and he asked another kid for help and the kid was like “Yeah, sure. But you have to give me your lunch money every single day for the rest of your life” and when your kid is like “wtf” the kid he went to for help was like “FINE, GET YOUR ASS KICKED EVERY DAY, SEE IF I FUCKING CARE!” and people praised that behavior…
Imagine if the future of your country and the lives of millions of people who live there all hinged on you having to fly half way around the world and be filmed trying to be polite to two gibbering morons, and not even in your first language.
Mad respect to Zelenskyy for keeping it together as well as he did TBH.
He melted down in a deranged rant against the governor of Maine, too. The surest sign of weakness is a hairtrigger temper.
The republican at my work says Zelensky will start WW3, will not be elected next election cycle, doesn’t want peace, is asking way too much, didn’t even thank Trump for the meeting.
Sounds like the American Dictator trump
Trump is a buffoon.
He is far worse than that.
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I hope with time we can prove to you that there’s Americans here fighting against this. I know it doesn’t look great now, and don’t blame you for hating us and our country. As an American, I also hate us and our country.
Hey man. I didn’t vote for the guy ever. I’m saddened multiple times per day by what is happening. Go fuck yourself if you think everybody here is okay with what’s going on here.
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Maga:
meh. This is fine.
edit - no, they are celebrating it. You know where to look. I wonder how bad it will get before that place finally realizes he’s not just hurting the people they want him to hurt.
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Maybe I gave up too early in the thread. I saw nothing more than lukewarm criticism of Trump/Vance, and the anti-Ukraine comments were as you describe.
I like to keep a feel for whether any of them are starting to wake up, but I have to limit my exposure over there because the things some of them say just really disgust me, and it’s all just so at odds with the values I was taught we had as a nation growing up, I just can’t take more than a few minutes of time there before I have to bail.
I shudder to now realize I’m walking around with 77 million people who continue supporting this jackass and what he’s doing to our country. It’s literally a nationwide cult. I’ve lost friends and family to it, as has everyone in the nation. It’s really just too much to handle sometimes.
(sorry for the rant, I didn’t intend it when I started typing)
There was some pretty stern criticism.
I deleted my post because in the last few minutes, those threads got deleted and there’s been a flood of new posts that are much more anti-Ukraine. My guess is that the shot callers over there saw something resembling independent thought among the rubes and decided they needed to put a stop to that right quick before they actually start forming their own opinions.
Edit - well I’m now deleting my entire response because I misunderstood yours lol. In any case - all good! :)
Trump’s attitude towards peace is the attitude of a rapist: your attacker is bigger and stronger; the more you struggle, the more it will hurt. Just let it happen and it will be better for you.
Two entertainers making a spectacle. A cynic might think it was staged.
Except the one who was actually a successful comedian and actor was not the one trying to make a spectacle
A cynic might. Someone who actually thinks things through might not.
And… Why would they stage that? Trump wanted to get a peace deal so he could claim it as a win of his anti-war presidency. Zelensky wanted to secure further support. Both didn’t get what they wanted.
