• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    What blows my mind is that when it comes to costs I feel like voice actors are probably less than 5% of the budget on a video game. Unless they hire a famous actor I can’t imagine this being that worthwhile. It’s just penny pinching.

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      10 days ago

      Imagine the pace you can just dump out new voice lines for items, maps, general quibble etc that you’d never get the budget to bring a bunch of VAs into studio to do for updates

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      8 days ago

      The one use case I can see being valuable is dynamically reading a custom name. In Skyrim for example, all NPCs refer to you by your title as Dragonborn. But some smart person made a mod that uses AI trained on the NPC voice lines to embed your character’s name into dialog!

      As long as voice actors are appropriately compensated/protected, say with royalties for every game that uses their likeness or an ironclad contract making sure the company can’t stiff then out of future work, I feel like that could be a great thing.

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    10 days ago

    So let’s hear it. Hand an AI Leviathan Wakes, the first book of The Expanse, and see how it does. My money is on it being garbage, but let’s hear it.

    Jefferson Mays is tough to beat as a human.

    Worse, hand an AI a Terry Pratchett book, see how that goes.

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      10 days ago

      I only read heard him read the last 3 books+ novellas after watching the show, and he REALLY did the accents well

      *Except Bobbie, not enough southern hemisphere OZ/NZ twang

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        10 days ago

        Audiobook narrators don’t “read”. They act. They vocally act the entire book. The ones who don’t generally get returned, unread, to either your audiobook platform choice or the library.

        Voice actors in games also don’t just read. They act. They vocally act their entire role.

        Jennifer Hale vs AI, who would win? Would any human other than Kate Mulgrew as Flemeth have made the character as compelling?

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      10 days ago

      Hand the AI Twilight books. It’ll either delete itself or make them better?

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    9 days ago

    When Star Wars (1976) came out, it cost 12 million to make and had almost no advertising. The “advertising” was word-of-mouth.

    Modern games and movies wouldn’t need to set aside 100 million dollar advertising budgets (on TOP of the cost of their product) if they would simply stop writing shit.

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      9 days ago

      They had word of mouth AND the difficulty of getting a film made and distributed. That meant very few movies existed. It’s easier to stand out in a small crowd.

      Now anybody with a phone can film and distribute. Marketing is more important for getting your idea in front of people than anything else these days.

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      9 days ago

      You can’t really compare budgeting and advertising with 50 years ago.

      Regardless of inflation, it’s hard to stand out in the flood of new stuff and information being thrown at us from every direction. You didn’t have any of that back then.

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      9 days ago

      Then they wouldn’t have to make up the advertising costs with subtransactions (micro transactions doesn’t seem like the right word anymore when they cost over $5 a pop).

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    9 days ago

    The great thing about ai is you don’t need to get a voice actor to do it

    Just some random person that knows it won’t be a career and could use $5

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      8 days ago

      And it’d sound like they’re literally phoning it in. At that point, no, the artists and writers would just do it themselves. Like old times.

      What this tech makes possible is hiring Nolan North to do everyone. Men, women, children, cats, dogs, stuffed toy dinosaurs, everyone. It’s mocap for your vocal cords. You don’t have to look like David Hayter to move like Snake, and you don’t have to sound like Michael Shapiro to talk like the G-Man. What people will hear and see is the performance.

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    10 days ago

    I think it is wrong, but this is inevitable.

    The next time they hire actors they will just require them to train the AI as well. Voice actors will in a huge part die out. There will be some, but far less. Even A-list celebrities will in the future have to give the companies their likeness and their voice. So that companies can provide dubbing for other languages, make toys etc.

    Not the A-list celebrities we have now necessarily, but the coming generations. I can’t see a situation in which everyone have a united front and won’t take the money

    Edit: I realized this is a bit defeatist. A solution would be unions, I should have mentioned that

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    10 days ago

    AI will replace them. All they’re doing is buying themselves more time. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, but it will happen.

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    8 days ago

    Using AI to recreate a real person’s voice is the dumbest possible use. It’s like drawing a cartoon that can only resemble a real living actor. Just… make something up. How does this character sound, in your head? Generate that, and then use style transfer, so anyone can do that voice.

    Because the text-to-speech version is only the voice… not the character. You still want real human actors performing the character. The AI part is just a costume for their throat.

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    9 days ago

    Since being replaced by AI is inevitable, it would make more sense for us to be figuring out how to make that world work instead of swinging swords at the ocean.

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      9 days ago

      It doesn’t have to be inevitable. You, a gamer, can openly and loudly refuse to buy games that are made with the use of generative AI

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        6 days ago

        People in the early 20th century could have openly and loudly refused to ride in cars, but they didn’t, and people today won’t refuse to accept AI in enough numbers to stop AI. It doesn’t HAVE to be inevitable, but it is anyway.