Summary

In a Fox News interview, Elon Musk and Sean Hannity repeatedly talked over Donald Trump, sidelining him in a discussion about government efficiency.

Musk dominated the conversation, warning of national bankruptcy and presenting himself as a savior.

Hannity largely directed questions to Musk, while Trump struggled to interject.

The awkward exchange fueled speculation about Musk’s influence, with some questioning who is really in charge.

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    Just goes to show, Trump is not the cause of the disease, he’s a symptom. Trump could be Luigied tomorrow and the problems with the Republican party wouldn’t disappear. They are completely owned by billionaires.

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      Trump is still important. He’s the person at the center of the cult they’ve built their power on.

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      The billionaires own establishment Democrats as well. See Bernie 2016. MSNBC treated Bernie worse than Trump 2024.

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    Honestly where the fuck is JD Vance? Isn’t he the vice president? Musk is always next to Trump, I haven’t seen Vance one time

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      Trump was being honest when he said Vance didn’t matter and wasn’t going to do anything in office anyway.

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      He’s pulling a Pence. Be close enough to reap the benefits but far enough to not go down with the ship.

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      JD Vance’s job is to not overshadow Trump. Trump doesn’t seem to mind if Musk does, though.

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    Trump is waxing and waning. The man is 80 and looking quite unhealthy. When geriatrics start to wax and wane there are recognizable patterns but it can vary a bit by personality. Biden and Trump are the same in that respect.

    What waxing and waning means is you can have a perfectly normal exchange with Biden on day 1 and on day 2 get the debate performance and on day 3 get perfectly normal again. Inertia and habit carries people a lot further and longer than you think, depending on what they spent most of their lives doing. It’s not uncommon to have career domination in this inertia.

    I suspect Trump will look much more odd and awkward than Biden going forward.

    High odds it’s one reason Elon is with him and the interview isn’t solo, so Elon can be a handler of sorts and talk over him rather than having Trumps Biden moments on full, singular focus. One of the other reasons, ofc, is to maintain this idea that they are the same person in power, to keep that tight association going.

    My personal theory with zero hard evidence to back it is that Trump does his disengagement thing when his internal pacemaker with defibrillator zaps him. And that he’d be dead already without it.

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      I like that defibrillator theory, though usually I’ve seen patients react with pain when it goes off. Maybe the disengagement is him going into v-tach and his blood pressure tanking before it pops him.

      As for Musk covering for the dementia, I doubt it. If you look at Trump’s transcripts over the years, he’s had a propensity for dementia soup when he speaks for a while now, but his supporters just dismiss it, hear what they want, and say it’s fake news. I don’t see why they’d suddenly be worried about it now. No, this is Musk just plain old taking the driver’s seat.

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        People with dementia have increasing difficulty following conversations, especially with multiple people, as the dementia gets worse.

        It could be that Trump just can’t follow the conversation well. They’re not covering so much as Trump can’t handle so many people talking.

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    When the fallout happens between Trump and Musk, Trump may find it difficult to get rid of him since he has handed so much power to Musk (via write access to government databases).

    There will come a point where he literally won’t be able to get rid of him once control of the law enforcement arm goes to Musk.

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        I promise you, they would take America with them. Willingly, out of spite, if nothing else.

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      I don’t think this is true. I think there are multiple avenues for which Musk could be prosecuted if Trump wants him gone. All he has to do is say the word and Musk will be in jail on the same day.

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    Transcribed as…

    Leader of the free world: -“Right” -“Europe” -“Europe” -“There could be nothing bigger. There’s nothing —” -“That’s peanuts compared to what we’re talking about,” -“Including his ships. Including his ships going up.” -“Sean, you’re a… ”

    Hannity: *dismissively - “This is important,” *continues to talk to Musk.

    *Trump utterly humiliated rambles under his breath.

    Who is the alpha here? What a joke not to mention Elon’s talking points are 100% contradictory.

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      He’s a senile geriatric, he has no clue what decade it is, let alone what the fuck is being talked about. He was told to sit there and shut up so he wouldn’t ramble or say some stupid nazi shit and let the big boys talk. So he did, and we get to see who the real boss is.