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Honestly we need her in the Senate for at least two terms before she’s president, once she’s served her terms as president she’ll be stuck as powerless as Obama probably feels rn, let’s milk having someone like her for as long as possible, and that starts with her taking that feckless shit head Schumer’s Senate seat.
customary way would be to wait until she’s in her 70s
Yes! This!
Red Star, whose member Megan Romer is one of DSA’s two national cochairs, has expressed “serious doubts” about throwing its weight behind her, citing a lack of “political and practical alignment with DSA.” Marxist Unity Group and Springs of Revolution have questioned moves toward an early endorsement and stressed the importance of holding socialist elected officials accountable. Liberation, a much smaller Maoist caucus, has rejected the idea of making her the standard-bearer of the socialist movement.
Well, those people are fucking idiots…
Luckily no organization is going to be able to just name a candidate.
Whoever it eventually is, will have to win a full 50 state primary. And even if the DSA is outspokenly against her (or any other progressive) it just won’t fucking matter.
Progressive policy is what’s popular and what voters are eager to flock to. Not fucking Maoism.
No one wants Maoism, and the people ignorant enough to think they do, shouldn’t be listened to under any circumstances, they don’t even know what terms they’re using mean, or even worse they do and actually want Maoism…
Holding that “political power grows out of the barrel of a gun”,[38] Maoism emphasises the “revolutionary struggle of the vast majority of people against the exploiting classes and their state structures”, which Mao termed a people’s war. Mobilising large parts of rural populations to revolt against established institutions by engaging in guerrilla warfare, Maoist Thought focuses on “surrounding the cities from the countryside”.
Maoism views the industrial-rural divide as a major division exploited by capitalism, identifying capitalism as involving industrial urban developed First World societies ruling over rural developing Third World societies.[39] Maoism identifies peasant insurgencies in particular national contexts as part of a context of world revolution, in which Maoism views the global countryside as overwhelming the global cities.[40] Due to this imperialism by the capitalist urban First World toward the rural Third World, Maoism has endorsed national liberation movements in the Third World.[40]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoism#Components
It would literally be a bunch of MAGA storming cities and killing anyone that has an education, Jan 6th on a national scale, with plenty of public executions, just like under Mao.
The fuck is the DSA doing letting self identified Maoists into their tent?
fuck is the DSA doing letting self identified Maoists
They’re being in solidarity with the left. Which we should all do.
with the left
Buddy…
In 1978 the CCP split from Maoists, because the Maoists were too extreme
Do you have any idea how many people died because of Maoism?
Jung Chang and Jon Halliday contend that implementation of Maoist thought in China was responsible for as many as 70 million deaths during peacetime,[118] with the Cultural Revolution, the Anti-Rightist Campaign of 1957–1958,[119] and the Great Leap Forward. Active campaigns, including party purges and “reeducation”, resulted in imprisonment or the execution of those deemed contrary to the implementation of Maoist ideals.[120] Some historians have argued that because of Mao’s land reforms during the Great Leap Forward which resulted in famines, thirty million perished between 1958 and 1961. By the end of 1961, the birth rate was nearly cut in half because of malnutrition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoism#Criticism_and_implementation
Seriously, do you have any idea what Maoism actually is?
They’re authoritarians. That’s not “the left”.
Am I awful for suggesting El sayed with AOC as vice instead?
There are too many misogynistic shitbags and the race is too important.
I want AOC to be our first female president, but 2028 seems like a bad time to risk it. 😕
Woulda preferred she ran in 2024 instead of Kamala.
She’s got my vote either way. Just, shit ain’t stable, and plenty of the folks that don’t support Donald Trump will never vote for a woman president.
Sigh.
There are too many misogynistic shitbags
Doesn’t matter who runs, fascist propaganda will attack them. Similar concerns about Obama, although not as severe because fascism was less out in the open.
The times are calling for real progressives. I think that’s the only way to overcome the fascists. Not with Right Wing Lite™ like Newsom.
You think a muslim president is easier?
Hearing him talk in an American English accent would probably disarm at least half of the casual racist crowd.
100000%, yes.
Is that a serious question?
Mamdani won with a small different despite how bad Cuomo was.
El Sayed isn’t DSA. AOC is.
If El Sayed wants to join the party they are more than welcome, but you shouldn’t expect DSA to endorse someone not DSA.
I think you’re right, and you can call me a “Bernie Bro” all you want… If you compare Abdul’s prowess in terms of public speaking on the fly with AOC’s you will see a big difference and Abdul wins hands-down. He will also get the misogynist vote, which yes, is important, as we saw in 2016.
This has been my biggest critique of AOC for the previous 4 years. After her tussle with Pelosi and getting banged up in that, she started taking only much safer media pieces. She stopped going on basically any media where journalists would challenge her, and also only took “forum” type questions where she had the mic and the questioner didnt.
So there was a solid 3, 3 and a half years of that, and she got soft. She lost her edge from 2017. But Bernie brought her back out with their combined tour. And since then she’s been sharpening her edge. She still wont take contested media spaces. But she’s doing better.
Ro Khanna has been far better at taking controversial media. Same with El Sayed. AOC needs to sharpen her game here.
I’d be so happy with 2 years of El Sayed / AOC leading to 2 years of AOC / El Sayed. At least at this moment in both of their track records and given the current state of the US.
You ask me this in 2022, I’m here for AOC 100%, In just sour on how my party treated Kamala. I don’t trust them to do AOC justice in a campaign after that.
I think it would be rad to have the scenario you talk about… the two of them, but they switch roles.
Kamala tried, but she was never a favorite of anyone even during the primary.
Im sorry but misogynists are not voting for a guy named Abdul El-Sayed either
More of them will. That’s my point. Especially if fox news keeps sexualizing him.
I think you’d be surprised. All you have to do is listen to him to know he’s on the up-and-up. I think they would respect his confidence. Whereas AOC is already the new “most hated woman in politics” now that Hillary and Pelosi are out of it, in their minds. She has no chance.
