Americans are backing progressives not because they want socialism, but because they want candidates who will fight for the working class

Dropout has a point.

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    Americans are backing progressives not because they want socialism, but because they want candidates who will fight for the working class

    That’s the literal goal of socialism though…

    They’re voting for progressive Democrats not because they want socialism, support the Democratic Socialists of America, or reject candidates called “moderate”.

    They’re voting for candidates whom they believe will fight to make housing, food, healthcare and childcare affordable to average working families. And who’ll take on Trump’s billionaire backers, CEOs and Wall Street titans who are rigging the economy against them.

    So they are voting for socialists not because they want socialism, but because the alternatives are refusing to reign in, or are overtly in favor of, unfettered capitalism

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      not because they want socialism, but because they want candidates who will fight for the working class

      That’s the literal goal of socialism though…

      they are not fighting for the dirty word but for the more acceptable wording of the same thing

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      If were going with the goals of socialism, the goal is to have social ownership of companies directly by the workers or through the state which is something that by and large Americans don’t support but yes, some Americans are voting for progressives and democratic socialists because they’re promising to enact regulations to help the median wage earning American.

      And a reminder that this is what MAGA, in all its forms, also ran and promised and won because median Americans kept being disappointed with Democrats not doing a damn thing to help them when they got into power.

      I mean I’m hopeful that the Democratic party will get its head out of its ass and and continue to vote in progressives and DSA members but overall in median America, I still have my doubts it’ll be a quick change since it’s been over a decade since Tea Party/MAGA have continued to hold power with median Americans, George Carlin voters continuing to vote these charlatans in power.

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        George Carlin voters continuing to vote these charlatans in power.

        Um what?

        They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ‘cause they own this fuckin’ place. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on.

        • George Carlin, Life is Worth Losing, 2005
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          You took the time to paste this section of his set yet neglect the literal previous ten minutes where he talks about the stupidity of the American people.

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            Referring to those idiots as George Carlin Voters as if they’re following his advice is disingenuous and an insult to a great man.

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      because they want socialism

      I’m guessing you mean democratic socialism or social democracy and not the Marxist kind.
      Social democracy has created some of the best societies in the world, while the Marxist kind has created some of the worst.

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        Agree to disagree. Marxism wasn’t the driving force behind the failure of Communist/Socialist endeavor that I’ve heard of.

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        Social democracy thrives only on exploitation of the working class elsewhere. Its citizens enjoy free healthcare and a robust social net, paid for by a person on the other side of the world hyperexploited by the capitalists in charge.

        Meanwhile socialist societies, while imperfect or even awful in many ways, actually build the productive forces necessary for human development and thus actual positive human rights.

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    Biden got elected on “$15 an hour”; minimum wage is still seven and change.

    Watch, there will always be a “few DINOs” (or RINOs, depending) in their majority to stop legislation that Bezos doesn’t approve of.

    The funny part is, they could skip this “super majority” dog and pony show at any time with a majority vote (called “nuclear option” because it frightens the proles, haha it’s not nuclear it is just a vote, suckers)

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    We really really need some progressives in gov. Like, a lot of em. Especially as the POTUS. Someone who is completely the opposite of the orange taint. The People should be the ones in charge, not the public servants.

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    Wall Street democrats:

    Hey we are the good guys, we want the same things Republicans want, but without the fascism. 🤢