The American flag: To some it’s Old Glory. To others it’s a MAGA hat on a stick.

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    33 minutes ago

    I always low-key know that the US is really young, but I always forget exactly how young it is. Like my town is 3-4 times older at least and there are nearby ruins which are in excess of 20 times older

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    2 hours ago

    After the COVID trucker protests, the Canadian flag became a red flag.

    After the ongoing Albertan separation scandal, the Canadian flag has been redeemed and the Albertan flag is a red flag.

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    Houses, businesses and vehicles with American flags on them or part of their decor, people with American flag clothes/hats will get the side eye from me forevermore. It’s pretty much become a shithead MAGA dogwhistle.

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    Similar to how Germans (used to) view private German flag display. Nationalism is a poison. PS: Well nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s achievements, but that blind pride and flag waving is a mindset based on confrontation, not solidarity with other countries.

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      There’s a difference between patriotism, which can be a good thing, and nationalism, which rarely is. It’s a shame “Pride” is such an ambiguous word in English, because it has many meanings that sound like they’re related, but are actually quite distinct; some very good, some deadly serious corruption.

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      My husband is German and has always found the crazy flag waving patriotism of the US odd. I never really understood his position until the last few years. Having been raised in the US, all of that seemed completely normal to me, but now I view it very differently.

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    What sickens me so much is that these sister-fuckers think that patriotism only belongs to them.

    Also annoying: the overly online types that act like the United States can never be redeemed and never did anything worthwhile.

    Fuck that noise. We have to reclaim that flag and the American experiment to try to actually strive to be better.

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    If someone has just one flag, that’s ok. It’s when they have dozens of the things that I find them suspicious.

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    The only time you’ll see me flying the flag is at full staff a couple days after his obituary. A couple of days because I’ll have to buy a pole and a flag, but it will be very proudly at the top.

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      6 hours ago

      I vote 2010 with Citizens United decision. Koch Brothers and TP USA immediately followed. Birther movement accelerated. Tea party astroturfing, etc.

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    I had this conversation with an American recently. They said their country had become an embarrassment and source of anger for all of his people. They were absolutely against almost everything the government had been doing for years. They still loved what it was supposed to stand for, but had no idea how to show it or even if to show it.

    Tap for spoiler

    It was a Jewish-American, they were talking about Israel.

    • NABDad@lemmy.world
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      I want to put a flagpole in my yard to fly the American flag, but I want to fly the Ally Pride flag under it. I want it as a reminder that the flag doesn’t just represent the assholes.

      My wife won’t let me, because she thinks it will make us a target. To me, that’s the reason I want to do it.

      She hasn’t said yes yet, but I’m still working on it.