The American flag: To some it’s Old Glory. To others it’s a MAGA hat on a stick.

  • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    Similar to how Germans (used to) view private German flag display. Nationalism is a poison. PS: Well nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s achievements, but that blind pride and flag waving is a mindset based on confrontation, not solidarity with other countries.

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      3 hours ago

      My husband is German and has always found the crazy flag waving patriotism of the US odd. I never really understood his position until the last few years. Having been raised in the US, all of that seemed completely normal to me, but now I view it very differently.

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        51 minutes ago

        Do other countries not have citizens flying their national flag? To my anecdotal knowledge, Italians, Mexicans, many South Americans are extremely proud. In my Brazil-American majority neighborhood, you know where literally every Brazilian-American lives because they have the flag of Brazil flown.

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      There’s a difference between patriotism, which can be a good thing, and nationalism, which rarely is. It’s a shame “Pride” is such an ambiguous word in English, because it has many meanings that sound like they’re related, but are actually quite distinct; some very good, some deadly serious corruption.

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        41 minutes ago

        I don’t see a difference between US patriotism and the bad kind of nationalism. It’s just better branding. But that it’s such good branding makes it worse, because even lefties don’t question their own arrogance when it comes to other countries, which enables imperialism.

        Just take the endless unquestioning, mandatory “thank you for your service” to veterans. That is not something I’ve ever seen in my country or think is a thing in other countries. Soldiers generally do not see action either. They are not supposed to see action. That the US soldiers see so much action is due to imperialism. It’s so weird.

        Or the whole pledge thing in school, ew. Making small children swear an oath to a fascist regime and police state, just despicable lol. Or the national anthem before every football game. If you’d see the same thing in China you’d see how weird it is.

        PS: Sorry if I come off a little too negative, I’m sure there are positive forms of patriotism. Just not in the USA lol.